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Re: [NORFOLK] Petition on PD/FD being in Mayor's Administration

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Developed_Code is not online. Developed_Code
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07 Mar 2016 06:59 PM
Hello Norfolk,

Recently a bill has passed city council forcing the Norfolk City Police Department and Norfolk City Fire Department to be under the Mayor's administration and controlled by the Mayors (https://trello.com/c/AcwXf2nu/236-department-administration-act). I believe this is a great idea, however I already have started to see something wrong. A bill that has been passed previously "forced" the council to listen to the public's petitions and get them passed through council (https://trello.com/c/VnBudnN2/192-power-to-the-people-act). Seeing this, the public can easily create a dumb petition and get it passed through City Council making all the departments under the citizen's control.

Looking at the first bill that was put up, the city council have already begun reducing the Director of PD/FD's ability to what they can do such as the extend the minimal due date for applications (https://trello.com/c/93EWvzTa/235-extend-minimal-due-date-for-applications-petition). I believe that the Director should be able to choose when to open their applications and close their applications because of whatever reason so. The city council has also passed an employment act which would technically be changing up the whole system in PD/FD if not yet done, which would then again be taking over the Director's job and doing it themselves (https://trello.com/c/uCiEbs8s/229-employment-act).

This means that the City Council is basically controlling ALL departments of Norfolk and can do WHATEVER they want within each Department, and yes that means re-train all the police officers. I would like this bill to be removed and that a bill be established LIMITING the City Councils power and what they can motion. If this petition does not reach the City Council because of some dumb reason including being power hungry, I will simply resign as the Director of Norfolk Department of Aviation as well as stop helping Norfolk anymore. I am no longer the Head Developer therefore I am no longer forced to do anything, but I am developing out of favor. I do not abuse my powers as the developer/group manager such as adding in perks for myself or anyone else and I evenly develop for both ends, the law enforcement and the criminals. I am pushing forth this petition hoping that the changes will be made and that once again I continue with what I have been doing.


Thank you,
Developed_Code

( If you support this, please sign this thread to gain the public's attention)


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07 Mar 2016 07:01 PM
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Support. They are going too far.
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07 Mar 2016 07:18 PM
May I remind you that the minimal applications bill is a petition. The council is elected by the people for the people. Not by the people, for the council. We simply do not want to control the department. Our job is to make sure the department is in means of productivity and stability. As seen recently by NCFD, we don't have enough firefighters, hence the employment act. If we could do WHATEVER we wanted, why not just impeach us.

Voidaq
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07 Mar 2016 07:19 PM
@Voidaq,

Thank you for your response, and I respect that. However, if you have read my first paragraph, you would see what I mean, and I will quote it for you.

"A bill that has been passed previously "forced" the council to listen to the public's petitions and get them passed through council (https://trello.com/c/VnBudnN2/192-power-to-the-people-act). Seeing this, the public can easily create a dumb petition and get it passed through City Council making all the departments under the citizen's control."


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07 Mar 2016 07:20 PM
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palmertae is not online. palmertae
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07 Mar 2016 07:23 PM
Yes we heard you, the petition was introduced to the council. https://trello.com/c/zzvKRx39/241-petition-to-remove-employment-act-department-administration-act-extend-minimal-due-date-for-applications-act


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07 Mar 2016 07:25 PM
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RandomGuyTho,

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Developed_Code is not online. Developed_Code
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07 Mar 2016 07:25 PM
Thank you councilperson palmertae. Greatly appreciated. However, it can still be denied by Council, which is what I am worrying about at the moment.

Instead of having the description link to this, you probably would want to create a bill with formatting and much more detailed information.


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tankguy67 is not online. tankguy67
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07 Mar 2016 07:26 PM
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LogicIntel is not online. LogicIntel
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07 Mar 2016 07:26 PM
If the PD and FD is not under the Mayors Administration then the PD and FD is an independent group.
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Developed_Code is not online. Developed_Code
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07 Mar 2016 07:28 PM
Correct me if I am wrong, they already are considered as an independent group not controlled by the Mayor/CC.


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