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Re: "AMERICA WILL NEVER BE SOCIALIST"

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SoarinApple is not online. SoarinApple
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03 Mar 2016 06:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zq-2cKENOc

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Brookwest is not online. Brookwest
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03 Mar 2016 06:55 PM
it better be, the dept isnt going to repay itself
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sly_marbo is not online. sly_marbo
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03 Mar 2016 06:55 PM
the debt is fine though??
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SoarinApple is not online. SoarinApple
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03 Mar 2016 06:56 PM
/m3HrZwE
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vasuke is not online. vasuke
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03 Mar 2016 06:56 PM
are you saying that 19 trillion dollars in debt is fine?



Onur şan ve bozma
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Forenz is not online. Forenz
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03 Mar 2016 06:58 PM
Sen kimsin
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sly_marbo is not online. sly_marbo
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03 Mar 2016 06:59 PM
yeah because our economy can handle the debt lol
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Valhalas is not online. Valhalas
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03 Mar 2016 06:59 PM
is this one of those stupid shtmedia videos about how because we have state-run infrastructure, police, social security and whatever that we're socialist

learn what socialism is before you try to make something stupid like this lol

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SoarinApple is not online. SoarinApple
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03 Mar 2016 07:01 PM
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SoarinApple is not online. SoarinApple
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03 Mar 2016 07:01 PM
watch the video??????
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Z007 is not online. Z007
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03 Mar 2016 07:02 PM
no lol

i didn't even watch that video but america isn't THAT socialist

we're capitalist, and sanders wants that to change in less than 10, maybe even 5 years

that's dumb

- your friendly neighborhood medical nerd
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Valhalas is not online. Valhalas
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03 Mar 2016 07:02 PM
i dont need to watch it to know that this is baseless lol

i know how my country functions and i know what socialism is xD
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DystraTala is not online. DystraTala
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03 Mar 2016 07:04 PM
Socialism is flawed.


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valrenic is not online. valrenic
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03 Mar 2016 07:04 PM
it shouldn't be socialist
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SoarinApple is not online. SoarinApple
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03 Mar 2016 07:04 PM
you act as if socialism will be the end of the world

but yeah, im sorry valhalas. i realize spending all this money on the people's needs is unimportant.

how about that iraq war which costed 2 trillion dollars? sure showed those darn goat-worshippers!11111
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Spectrial is not online. Spectrial
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03 Mar 2016 07:05 PM
Bernie is not a socialist. Nothing in the United States is socialism. If you research what socialism truly is, you will find almost instantly that Bernie not only does not represent that, but simply represents an expanded safety net and increased government expenditure. Socialism is when the government is in total control of the means of production. The only true attempt at socialism was indeed the Soviet Union and to some degree Venezuela. All Nordic countries described as "Socialist" are simply not. They still retain market economies and a relatively high degree of economic freedom. To call him a socialist is simply wrong. He is wrong. I know it's hard to fathom, but he can be wrong. Not only this, but there is no indication that any of his plans would cut spending. You cannot expand spending for your people and then somehow zip this money into existence. Bernie's plan would do a fantastic job crushing our economy. Don't take it from me though, because multiple accredited and non-partisan tax foundations have found that his plans would put us into negative GDP growth and thus, a recession. It is extremely naive to be a supporter of Bernie, especially at this point. Mark my words when I say he has zero shot at the nomination. Zero. Why do you question the principle of the American Dream? Is it not what has made us great for the past two and a half centuries? Name one notable person from any "socialist" Nordic country. I can't. Every person I've asked this question can't. I'm assuming also that you can't. That speaks volumes.
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Forenz is not online. Forenz
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03 Mar 2016 07:05 PM
Socialism isn't flawed.
Quebec (where I live) works with socialist ideologies, everything's fine here.
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SoarinApple is not online. SoarinApple
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03 Mar 2016 07:08 PM
Bernie is not a socialist. Nothing in the United States is socialism. If you research what socialism truly is, you will find almost instantly that Bernie not only does not represent that, but simply represents an expanded safety net and increased government expenditure. Socialism is when the government is in total control of the means of production. The only true attempt at socialism was indeed the Soviet Union and to some degree Venezuela. All Nordic countries described as "Socialist" are simply not. They still retain market economies and a relatively high degree of economic freedom. To call him a socialist is simply wrong. He is wrong. I know it's hard to fathom, but he can be wrong. Not only this, but there is no indication that any of his plans would cut spending. You cannot expand spending for your people and then somehow zip this money into existence. Bernie's plan would do a fantastic job crushing our economy. Don't take it from me though, because multiple accredited and non-partisan tax foundations have found that his plans would put us into negative GDP growth and thus, a recession. It is extremely naive to be a supporter of Bernie, especially at this point. Mark my words when I say he has zero shot at the nomination. Zero. Why do you question the principle of the American Dream? Is it not what has made us great for the past two and a half centuries? Name one notable person from any "socialist" Nordic country. I can't. Every person I've asked this question can't. I'm assuming also that you can't. That speaks volumes.


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tl;dr ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Brookwest is not online. Brookwest
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03 Mar 2016 07:09 PM
I live in an ex socialist state and it was better as socialist
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Z007 is not online. Z007
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03 Mar 2016 07:19 PM
@brook

that's probably because changing from one economic system can take a really long time and if it's not done properly, it's gonna go crazy

changing america to socialism is mainly just bad because it's really hard to do that in less than 10 years

if it was proposed to do that over 20 years or so, then it'd be a lot more feasible

- your friendly neighborhood medical nerd
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Wizvrd is not online. Wizvrd
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03 Mar 2016 07:21 PM
shreks a socialist
http://www.roblox.com/My/Groups.aspx?gid=1198871


if it's cancer, it's not a gun
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SoarinApple is not online. SoarinApple
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03 Mar 2016 07:23 PM
jesus is a socialist

+1 for religion idk

oh god the religion war is coming

what have i done

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Spectrial is not online. Spectrial
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03 Mar 2016 07:24 PM
Ignorance: a liberal virtue. NO socialist country HAS EVER been better off because of socialism. NONE. How can you be so ignorant to history? Have you ever read any history book before. I fully encourage you to educate yourself.

Ever wondered there are still USSR sympathizers in USSR east-bloc countries? Because Stalin killed ANYONE that questioned him. Kulaks, Jews, peasants, minorities, land owners, rich people, smart people, musicians, philosophers, visionaries, innocents. If you fully intend to defend what misery socialism has brought upon the world than I fully intend that you read a statement I make opposed to ignoring it, and read educate yourself on the truths of such a poisonous ideology. Grow up.
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Z007 is not online. Z007
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03 Mar 2016 07:25 PM
jesus is not a country

- your friendly neighborhood medical nerd
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Forenz is not online. Forenz
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03 Mar 2016 07:25 PM
Spec, you said it yourself, HISTORY
Time to concentrate on the present, please inform yourself about socialism and come back
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