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Re: Only military veterans should be able to run the government

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AirshipCaptain is not online. AirshipCaptain
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27 Feb 2016 03:44 PM
I got my idea from Robert Heinlein's novel, Starship Troopers. Many people don't value their citizenship and think it's just some arbitrary thing that they can just take for granted. And many of the presidential candidates are just lying dishonest pawns. The only people who should be able to vote, run for office, and form political parties are the people who have actually served the nation.
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Tennis_Racket is not online. Tennis_Racket
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27 Feb 2016 03:45 PM
so
uh
1800s again?


"𝐆𝐨𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐨 𝐰𝐚𝐫 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫 𝐫𝐞𝐥𝐢𝐠𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐢𝐬 𝐥𝐢𝐤𝐞 𝐤𝐢𝐥𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐬𝐨𝐦𝐞𝐨𝐧𝐞 𝐛𝐞𝐜𝐚𝐮𝐬𝐞 𝐲𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐢𝐦𝐚𝐠𝐢𝐧𝐚𝐫𝐲 𝐟𝐫𝐢𝐞𝐧𝐝 𝐢𝐬 𝐛𝐞𝐭𝐭𝐞𝐫 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐢𝐫𝐬."
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StraitOuttaBoston is not online. StraitOuttaBoston
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27 Feb 2016 03:46 PM
Starship Troopers is a good example of how to run a country yes
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gunspo is not online. gunspo
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27 Feb 2016 03:46 PM
wouldn't that make for a destroyed government, as the army troops would be out at battle 24/7 and have the risk of dying while running for/in office

why so serious - jimmy neutron


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AirshipCaptain is not online. AirshipCaptain
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27 Feb 2016 03:46 PM
"1800s again?"

This didn't happen in the 1800's in America
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tul06 is not online. tul06
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27 Feb 2016 03:46 PM
If that happened, we wouldn't have women presidents until 2019 or 2018.


[this guy used OP, OBJECTION!]
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faunlet is not online. faunlet
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27 Feb 2016 03:47 PM
there would be utter anarachy


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Plexun is not online. Plexun
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27 Feb 2016 03:47 PM
and women and blacks shouldnt be allowed to serve in the military XDDD
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m2th is not online. m2th
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27 Feb 2016 03:47 PM
"wouldn't that make for a destroyed government, as the army troops would be out at battle 24/7 and have the risk of dying while running for/in office"
Every president has a risk of dying while for/in office


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AirshipCaptain is not online. AirshipCaptain
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27 Feb 2016 03:49 PM
"wouldn't that make for a destroyed government, as the army troops would be out at battle 24/7 and have the risk of dying while running for/in office"

I said veterans
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gunspo is not online. gunspo
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27 Feb 2016 03:51 PM
that would still mean they're gonna die soon since they're veterans, and veterans most of the time are elderly people

why so serious - jimmy neutron


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TheOfficialDerpyTime is not online. TheOfficialDerpyTime
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27 Feb 2016 03:51 PM
"wouldn't that make for a destroyed government, as the army troops would be out at battle 24/7 and have the risk of dying while running for/in office"

well im gonna assume op means **retired** militants, so i guess you can die as often as an actual president
who knows what man wants to assassinate the president at any moment

i kinda agree with the op
although im not okay with losing my right to vote, i might be okay if it might as well be given to a person who actually knows what the struggle is of getting a 1,000 yard stare as he actually supported a country
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m2th is not online. m2th
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27 Feb 2016 03:51 PM
"I said veterans"
Eisenhower was a veteran


i am king of loser
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AirshipCaptain is not online. AirshipCaptain
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27 Feb 2016 03:51 PM
"and women and blacks shouldnt be allowed to serve in the military XDDD"

They are already serving the military
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AirshipCaptain is not online. AirshipCaptain
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27 Feb 2016 03:53 PM
"that would still mean they're gonna die soon since they're veterans, and veterans most of the time are elderly people"

Most veterans are in their 30s-50s
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morrill is not online. morrill
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27 Feb 2016 03:57 PM
"I got my idea from Robert Heinlein's novel, Starship Troopers."

This is a very old concept that gets brought up every now and again.


"And many of the presidential candidates are just lying dishonest pawns."

This will always be the case, until the people decide to stop standing for it. I can't say that a military requirement wouldn't help because it probably would, but simply because they're a veteran doesn't make them honest.


"The only people who should be able to vote, run for office, and form political parties are the people who have actually served the nation."

I believe this would conflict with a few amendments (I assume we're talking about the U.S). I wouldn't mind to see it for the top executives, but we need to remember that the government will be most efficient with multiple perspectives on an issue. The military tends to hold one perspective.

And as I said before, this has been brought up many times and has never been implemented. I would doubt it ever being implemented.


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morrill is not online. morrill
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27 Feb 2016 04:01 PM
To clarify the term veteran for those who do not know, it is anyone who has served and received an honorable or medical discharge in the military. Thus, one can be a veteran the age of 21, assuming they enlisted at 18 and served an honorable three years.


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DallinAnTrodai is not online. DallinAnTrodai
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27 Feb 2016 04:07 PM
@tul06

That would be fine, we don't need the only female candidate we have as president. We don't need another Clinton era.
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Hearsay is not online. Hearsay
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27 Feb 2016 04:14 PM
this is called a military junta lol
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ryancar is not online. ryancar
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27 Feb 2016 04:16 PM
America should have a Foreign Legion (Like the French) which will allow people who fked up a new life a new name, and possibly citizenship after the 5 year contract.(and you make below minimum wage 1k a month, but food and accommodations will be paid for.)



Anyway about Military + Gov.. I like Starship Troopers idea honestly.
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AirshipCaptain is not online. AirshipCaptain
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27 Feb 2016 04:58 PM
"this is called a military junta lol"

No it's not. A military junta is a dictatorship. This system of government would still be a democracy
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Hearsay is not online. Hearsay
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27 Feb 2016 05:05 PM
yeah, for a privileged class
i don't care if it's rich people or military veterans, a specific group of people shouldn't have inordinate power over everybody else, that's an oligarchy
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themathjesticforce is not online. themathjesticforce
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27 Feb 2016 05:07 PM
yeah, no

anyone should run for an office in the government

except bankers


https://twitter.com/colin_tierney/status/691139616905138178
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obbers is not online. obbers
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27 Feb 2016 05:07 PM
"that would still mean they're gonna die soon since they're veterans, and veterans most of the time are elderly people"

i believe you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what the word veteran means.
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AirshipCaptain is not online. AirshipCaptain
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28 Feb 2016 10:10 AM
"i don't care if it's rich people or military veterans, a specific group of people shouldn't have inordinate power over everybody else"

Why not?
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