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Re: i'm really as moderate as you could possibly get

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Swagudelo is not online. Swagudelo
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25 Feb 2016 10:24 PM
right in the middle
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ghg429xl is not online. ghg429xl
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25 Feb 2016 10:28 PM
gun control
abotrion
religion
fracking

go
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perrandude is not online. perrandude
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25 Feb 2016 10:29 PM
I'm split on the issues but I would call myself mostly a progressive. I can't call myself a moderate.
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Swagudelo is not online. Swagudelo
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25 Feb 2016 10:31 PM
gun control - yes
abotrion - no
religion - yes
fracking - this is my future career track, so obviously yes
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TotallyNotCap is not online. TotallyNotCap
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25 Feb 2016 10:31 PM
gun control: we should sell nuclear weapons to our citizens for self-defense against evil nations like sweden and russia

ab‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎or‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎ti‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎on: it's murder and women who mi‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎sca‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎rry should be charged with involuntary manslaughter

religion: our state religion should be a cult that kills hobos with axes

fracking: fu‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎ck the planet we're all going to die anyway





TINFOIL PARTY 2016
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ebenton95 is not online. ebenton95
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25 Feb 2016 10:35 PM
TINFOIL PARTY 2016
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123yonnd is online. 123yonnd
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25 Feb 2016 10:36 PM
gun control: yes with exceptions in rural regions
abotrion: absolutely
religion: people have right to their religion, but it shouldn't repress LGBT rights.
fracking: i am all for the environment.

pretty liberal as it gets.
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perrandude is not online. perrandude
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25 Feb 2016 10:37 PM
"gun control"
Just as John Kasich believes in "common sense" regulations, I believe in "common sense" gun rights and control. I banning certain firearms that could continue to pose a threat to the general public is undermining our safety. I also believe pushing an excess of gun control undermines our constitutional freedom granted upon us by the Second Amendment. I believe in expanding mental healthcare for all and criminal background checks as well as barring people on the No-Fly List from purchasing a firearm. I also believe concealed handgun laws are beneficial to us as areas with CHL laws in place are 5x less likely to have a mass shooting. Open carry is absurd though.

"abotrion"
I hear stories of women being permanently traumatized when they have to termniate, and it's truly disturbing. I encourage adoption over abrotoin because the child's life is just as important as the mothers, but there are always exceptions to everything in life. If the mother's life is at risk, or there were two other things Roblox probably won't allow me to say, or the mother is underage, the option to abort is always on the table.

"religion"
I'm going to make this simple. Keep every religious reference that currently exists existing and not add anything else in the future. I believe religion should have zero role in government.

"fracking"
It's terrible for our health as it is proven to cause respiratory problems and it has been causing numerous earthquakes in Oklahoma and North Texas as of late. There's no active fault line along Interstate 35, it's all the farcking going on. End that nonsense and take it to the Gulf of Mexico or the Middle East.
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perrandude is not online. perrandude
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25 Feb 2016 10:38 PM
"gun control: yes with exceptions in rural regions"
Can't have double standards yonnd. The law of the land has to be for all Americans.

"fracking: i am all for the environment."
Agreed.
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Swagudelo is not online. Swagudelo
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25 Feb 2016 10:39 PM
"It's terrible for our health as it is proven to cause respiratory problems and it has been causing numerous earthquakes in Oklahoma and North Texas as of late. There's no active fault line along Interstate 35, it's all the farcking going on. End that nonsense and take it to the Gulf of Mexico or the Middle East."

oh give me a break
says the person who's state's economy is completely dependent on it and utilizes the effects of it all day every day
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perrandude is not online. perrandude
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25 Feb 2016 10:39 PM
*I think not banning certain types of firearms
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tonyluu23 is not online. tonyluu23
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25 Feb 2016 10:39 PM
gun control - examination system
abotrion - no unless woman's life is deemed in danger
religion - shouldn't be imposed by anyone
fracking - gas prices are low. screw environment.
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perrandude is not online. perrandude
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25 Feb 2016 10:40 PM
"says the person who's state's economy is completely dependent on it and utilizes the effects of it all day every day"

It's terrible for the environment and frankly our health as well. If you are fine with seeing people get permanent respiratory conditions and seeing 4.5 magnitude earthquakes in Arlington measure on the Richter scale then be my guest
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123yonnd is online. 123yonnd
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25 Feb 2016 10:41 PM
"Can't have double standards yonnd. The law of the land has to be for all Americans."

It isn't a double standard because there are laws similar to what I am saying that are in effect.
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perrandude is not online. perrandude
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25 Feb 2016 10:41 PM
These laws are unfair and unjust for all of us.
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Swagudelo is not online. Swagudelo
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25 Feb 2016 10:43 PM
"It's terrible for the environment and frankly our health as well. If you are fine with seeing people get permanent respiratory conditions and seeing 4.5 magnitude earthquakes in Arlington measure on the Richter scale then be my guest"

1. you're exaggerating way too much lol
2. there are a lot of things that are terrible for the environment that we do anyway because we've become dependent on it
3. not only am i fine with that, in the future i'll be doing it myself
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ghg429xl is not online. ghg429xl
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25 Feb 2016 10:46 PM
gun control: common sense things such as no felons, but I think getting guns should be easy for those that want a way to defend themselves (Switzerland baby)

abotrion: I find it murder, so absolutely not unless the mother is going to die from it, and adoption is much more the way to go

religion: All religion is fine, as long as it doesn't promote violence against other religions or people in general

fracking: fracking does cause earthquakes, but right now we need to be searching for an alternative rather than stopping fracking, letting millions of people go jobless isn't very good, and we need somewhere for them to go instead
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perrandude is not online. perrandude
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25 Feb 2016 10:47 PM
"1. you're exaggerating way too much lol"
Fracking produces excess amounts of wastewater, filled with numerous harmful carcinogenic chemicals. Fracking also is harmful for our respiratory system and can contribute to asthma, cancer, and heart attacks. And then there's also the hundreds of earthquakes I've been mentioning. It's not normal for Oklahoma and Texas to have earthquakes.

"2. there are a lot of things that are terrible for the environment that we do anyway because we've become dependent on it"
That's right, which means we need to get off those things terrible for the environment and switch to clean energy like wind and solar power. The planet will love it much more.
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ghg429xl is not online. ghg429xl
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25 Feb 2016 10:49 PM
Side note: the planet isn't a person, and it doesn't care what happens to it, good or bad, humans can change what happens on it, but the planet as no opinion in this matter
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perrandude is not online. perrandude
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25 Feb 2016 10:50 PM
You're right, the planet isn't a person, just as guns don't kill people on their own. However, the planet is home to many living things, and it's not fair to the majority of them to keep doing what some greedy people "need" for only the greater greed of themselves.
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perrandude is not online. perrandude
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25 Feb 2016 10:53 PM
You know, when you take a drive out to Ruidoso, New Mexico, just as I did a few years ago on a winter vacation, you'll pass Brownwood, Texas, and you'll see endless acres of wind farms. Wind power that's clean and helpful to our environment, not harmful, and certainly not producing any significant pollutants.
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TotallyNotCap is not online. TotallyNotCap
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25 Feb 2016 10:54 PM
If you want an actually serious response from me



gun control:
Guns aren't the problem. When an enormous majority of firearm criminals get their guns illegally anyway, I don't see how this is going to solve anything. The solution is to shift people's mentality away from guns and crime by increasing healthcare funding, particularly for mental health. If you want to call it "gun control" in the sense that America should reduce some funding on manufacturing and sending military grade weapons overseas (also known to some as the US Army) then sure.

ab‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎or‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎ti‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎on:
Ab‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎or‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎ti‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎on should generally be up to the states to decide how much to restrict them, but at the very minimum it should be legally required to admit confirmed ra‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎pe victims, minors, and people with health risks for a procedure.

religion:
Religion in personal life is a good thing. Religion in politics and as a reason to create laws is a step towards a literally oppressive moralistic dictatorship. If you want a perfect modern example of such a dictatorship, look no further than Saudi Arabia.

fracking:
I don't personally care about it (maybe because I live in a province where it's a huge part of the economy) but since I have to pick a stance on this anyway, I'll just say that the state should decide on this. Considering the health risks it obviously has, there should be some guidelines on where and how this should be done, if it's being done at all.
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Swagudelo is not online. Swagudelo
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25 Feb 2016 10:55 PM
"Fracking produces excess amounts of wastewater, filled with numerous harmful carcinogenic chemicals."

not really, since fracking goes way down deep below the water table and is brought up by solid insulated pipes

"Fracking also is harmful for our respiratory system and can contribute to asthma, cancer, and heart attacks. And then there's also the hundreds of earthquakes I've been mentioning. It's not normal for Oklahoma and Texas to have earthquakes."

Literally almost anything can give you cancer.

You live in America where the air is cleaner and your immune system isn't to resistance to foreign substance in the air and your lungs. You are already more prone to asthma anyway.

The obesity rate in America is astronomical and has caused heart attacks to be the #2 cause of death in the United States. Apparently that's not a problem and we shouldn't "fat shame" but hydraulic fracturing is.

"That's right, which means we need to get off those things terrible for the environment and switch to clean energy like wind and solar power. The planet will love it much more."

just one single 5 kW solar panel system costs $40,000 to buy and install
please tell us how we're all going to switch to solar power
I'd love to hear your idea

maybe you could get your boy bernie to give it to us for free
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habs100 is not online. habs100
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25 Feb 2016 10:57 PM
gun control - no one but a cop or a soldier needs a device that was designed to kill living things, particularly humans
abotrion - it should be up to no one but the parents of the fetus
religion - not sure what you mean, but religion should have 0 role in government, and churches should start paying taxes
fracking - not well educated on this topic, but would lean towards not fracking
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Swagudelo is not online. Swagudelo
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25 Feb 2016 10:59 PM
"Wind power that's clean and helpful to our environment, not harmful, and certainly not producing any significant pollutants."

1. extremely hazardous to birds and the environment. animal habitats are disrupted and wildlife is driven from the area.

2. wind farms are fragile and must be shut down when there are high winds. Why? Because the turbines will bend inward and snap. When there is no wind, there’s no power generated. So when production could be highest, the technology can’t work.

3. wind power is the most expensive form of energy. you think solar power is expensive? lol.

4. wind power ends up causing more pollution than a coal plant alone
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