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Re: Improve the ability of the CSG tool.

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av83r is online. av83r
Joined: 28 Jul 2009
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26 Jan 2016 02:06 PM
Lets not pretend here. The solid modeling tool is a good start, but it is absolute garbage as far as its capabilities. It is no coincidence that we have not seen more detailed games on here that don't require a super computer to play.

Things that need to be fixed

(because the tool is bad enough that we can say "it is broken".)

1.) More precise merges/cuts. This may sound ridiculous, but I don't think having to move a piece 3 studs out or make it 3 studs bigger to weld/cut is reasonable in some circumstances. This alone would vastly improve the tool.

2.) Look into game crashing merges/cuts. These mainly happen when you get "close" to the triangle limit and by close, I mean almost 1/8th of the way.
If you make claims that you can reach some 1800 triangles using this tool, you should be able to make good on it.

Now if you disagree with me, and I mean you REALLY disagree, then I'd like you to SHOW ME what you have done with the CSG tool.
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VeriusLucinius is not online. VeriusLucinius
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26 Jan 2016 04:00 PM
Absolutely support.
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Xoreus is not online. Xoreus
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26 Jan 2016 04:05 PM
yes pls
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av83r is online. av83r
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26 Jan 2016 10:00 PM
bump
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av83r is online. av83r
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27 Jan 2016 07:32 PM
bump
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av83r is online. av83r
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02 Feb 2016 01:32 PM
Ok, so after some even more extensive testing, the only parts you will NOT have a problem with are the basic blocks. No triangles, no spheres, no corner pieces. JUST BLOCKS. Is this reasonable to you?
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VeriusLucinius is not online. VeriusLucinius
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02 Feb 2016 03:47 PM
God no. Everything must be unionable. EVERYTHING.
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av83r is online. av83r
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02 Feb 2016 04:22 PM
My man :)
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Superwarrior360 is not online. Superwarrior360
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02 Feb 2016 05:31 PM
support
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kritiki is not online. kritiki
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02 Feb 2016 05:48 PM
no support



back to unity
back to steam
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Skebby is not online. Skebby
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02 Feb 2016 05:51 PM
"back to unity"
Unity is bad except for low-budget indie games.


CSG has tonnes of minor and very annoying issues. It can only go well under set-conditions.
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av83r is online. av83r
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10 Feb 2016 10:00 AM
Kritiki has stated he disagrees but has failed to show any evidence to support his opinion. Please ignore him.
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kritiki is not online. kritiki
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14 Feb 2016 11:00 AM
that hurt my feelings


ur so r00d



can't u take a prank




it's just a prank bro
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TixPile is not online. TixPile
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14 Feb 2016 11:06 AM
@op
its his opinion, wtf do you want from him


craps given about this post: 0
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kritiki is not online. kritiki
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14 Feb 2016 01:38 PM
S&I is the forum that can't take jokes





cue the flame war
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av83r is online. av83r
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15 Feb 2016 05:40 AM
The point of this thread is to set something in motion that is greatly needed in this site. I don't mind a joke, but not on such a serious matter. I was very clear with the rules of this thread. Follow them, or leave. You have your options ladies and gentlemen.
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kritiki is not online. kritiki
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15 Feb 2016 10:55 AM

this is the forums
.this is how certain people act
and guess what
this isn't a serious matter, making games isn't a serious matter. and you think it's greatly needed but some think it's not yet your trying to state a fact that's false
"the point of this thread is to set something in motion that is greatly needed for this site"
we need other stuff like
no devents
more hats
more gears
we already got those tho but
better groups
better people
maybe a extra forum?
this is just on the lowest row of the needed stuff
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xXTheRobotXx is not online. xXTheRobotXx
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15 Feb 2016 11:15 AM
not needed

the CSG tool works great for me with any shape and i never experience crashes with it

examples:

http://www.roblox.com/pickaxe-item?id=364162421

http://www.roblox.com/axe-item?id=364162568

maybe you aren't using it correctly


#Code print("Narwhals are our future")
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av83r is online. av83r
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18 Feb 2016 04:32 AM
@kritiki: you may or may not have a point there.

I'm not sure what you mean by "no devents"

but...

With an extensive catalogue of hats and gear, I think we can forgo releasing new ones, however the ones responsible for producing the hats are likely not the same people responsible for the CSG tool.

Why would we need better groups? What aspect of groups is low grade that we would need to improve upon?

You can't fix people. There's even a rule on it. Not in the way we have stated, but its loose enough that the pious moderator can twist it however they deem fit.

What would we need an extra forum for?

@Therobot: I'm not going to outright call you a troll. But no, you just haven't used the tool extensively enough to understand our frustration. The examples you have given consist of little more than maybe 10 or 12 parts at best. Not even closely comparable to the difficulties those who support have come across.

Your disapproval has been rebuked.
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glurbman is not online. glurbman
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18 Feb 2016 05:04 AM
@the robot ->no offense ..but your models are just easy shapes unioned togheter i can even see the low wedge count from one meter distance without wearing my glasses ^^

..no just a joke ..but the tool needs really many improvements (:

ps. heres my work that totally hit all limits :http://www.roblox.com/First-Order-Trooper-morph-V-1-2-item?id=342492881
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glurbman is not online. glurbman
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18 Feb 2016 05:06 AM
and with hit all limits i mean it crashed my studio like ten times and my cpu started to emit black smoke o_O
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kritiki is not online. kritiki
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18 Feb 2016 07:57 AM
hey kid


get off this forum if you wanna complain about people's opinions

not talking about you above.

I'm talking about OP


start learning about how others think and feel about certain things

if it's there opinion respect it
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xXTheRobotXx is not online. xXTheRobotXx
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18 Feb 2016 10:11 AM
"your tools need many improvements"

you do realize an axe is not nearly as complicated as a trooper suit

right


#Code print("Narwhals are our future")
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av83r is online. av83r
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18 Feb 2016 10:55 PM
@kritiki:

You don't seem to understand this forum very well. This forum is as much about ideas as it is about defending them as well as it is an appeal to the roblox dev team.

As such, I feel very strong about my stance, and will defend it vigorously and without mercy, but at the same time, I am not without reason. If you have a valid point, I will admit it. As such, you do not.
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kritiki is not online. kritiki
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19 Feb 2016 02:03 PM
your the type of guy who gets mad and has to write a whole paragraph
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