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Re: OOC: A fifteenth-century poem I found on swordfighting

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eikoopmit is not online. eikoopmit
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17 Feb 2016 08:26 AM
Please note that this is entirely in English.

Man yt wol to ye to hond swerd lern bothe close
& clere /
He most haue a goode eye both fer & nere
& an in stop . & an owte stop . & an hauke
qrter. A cantel . a doblet . an half for hys
fere
Too rowndys . & an halfe wt a goede cher .
This ys ye ferst cownter of ye too hond
swerd sere
Bynde hë to gedere & sey god spede . Two
qrters & a rownde a stop thou hÿ bede
A rake wt a spryng yer thou hÿ a byde . ffalle
in v an hauke & stride nogte to wyde
Smyte a rënÿg qrter owte for hys syde
ffal a pö hys harneys yf he wole a byde
Come in wt a rake in euy a syde
An hole rownde & an halfe . Wath so ht be
tyde
. iiij. qrters & a rownd . & aueture stroke wyth
Bere vp hys harnes & gete thou ye gryth
Dobyl vp lygtly & do as y seye
ffal in wt an hauke & ber a goede eye
A spryn~ & a rownde & stap in wyth
Spar nogth ä hauke yf he lye in thy kyth
Smyte a rënÿg qrter for owte of thy honde
A byde a pon a pëdent & lese not thy londe
Smyte in ye lyfte foete & cleue rygt dovne
Geder ovte of thy rygte hond & smyte a hauke
rovnde
ffresly smyte thy strokis by dene
And hold wel thy lond thath hyt may be sene
Thy rakys . thy rowndis . thy qrters a bowte
Thy stoppis . thy foynys . lete he fast rowte
Thy sprynys . thy quarters . thy rabetis also
Bere a goede eye & lete thy hond go
ffy on a false hert yt dar not a byde
en he seyth rovndys & rakys rënyng by hs side
ffle not hastly for a lytil pryde
ffor lytil wote thy adusary wath hÿ shal be tide
lete strokys fast folowe aftr hys honde
And hauk rovnde wt a stop & stil yt thou stond
Greue not gretly thov yu be tochyd a 1yte
ffor a aftr stroke ys betr yf thou dar hÿ smyte
A gode rovnde wt an hauke & smyte rygt dovne
Gedyr vp a doblet & spar not hys crovne
Wt a rownde & a rake a byde at a bay
Wt a rënÿg qrter sette hÿ oute of hys way
Thys beeth ye lettr yt stondÿ in hys sygte
To teche . or to play . or ellys for to fygte
These beeth ye strokys of thy hole grovnde
ffor hurte . or for dynte or ell~s for dethys
wonde.

If you can't read it (illiterate swine!), allow me to paraphrase it - you guys don't know how to swordfight, nor do you know what swordfighting actually looks like. You are unable to accurately describe swordfighting tactics and maneuvers in your RPs due to your lack of knowledge of whatever the hell a "rowndys" is, I honestly don't know either.

This is only sorta relevant, but I thought it worth sharing.
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KnightOfSkeleton is not online. KnightOfSkeleton
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17 Feb 2016 09:09 AM
in actual swordfighting you beat the snot out of people with whatever's around you
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KnightOfSkeleton is not online. KnightOfSkeleton
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17 Feb 2016 09:10 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFiIDl_mt2c

this is what my friends and I did for a class in highschool
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eikoopmit is not online. eikoopmit
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17 Feb 2016 09:27 AM
Crap, I forgot to cite my sources. Harleian manuscript 3542 is where I got this poem from, in case anyone was wondering about the legitimacy of this post.

De jongen drinkt de melk. All you need to know is that "Jongen" means "Boy" and you've learned yourself some Dutch.
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TheAlternateSpy is not online. TheAlternateSpy
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17 Feb 2016 11:00 AM
You remind me of Ignatius J. Reilly, except without being interesting nor entertaining.
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PhantomEssence is not online. PhantomEssence
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17 Feb 2016 11:31 AM
"De jongen drinkt de melk. All you need to know is that "Jongen" means "Boy" and you've learned yourself some Dutch."

Similar to German: Der Jungen trinken die milk", only that Jungen would be plural in this case ;o
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eikoopmit is not online. eikoopmit
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17 Feb 2016 05:55 PM
It's a siggy that I had from months ago when I was into language learning that I keep forgetting to change.

De jongen drinkt de melk. All you need to know is that "Jongen" means "Boy" and you've learned yourself some Dutch.
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GodlyShadowBlade is not online. GodlyShadowBlade
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17 Feb 2016 06:16 PM
"A gode rovnde wt an hauke & smyte rygt dovne"

So... "A goat round why and choke & smite right down"
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birmie123 is not online. birmie123
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17 Feb 2016 09:29 PM
swordfighting, in reality, is not two combatants slashing at each other, battles going on for hours, with special cool moves with heavy strikes across an opponent's body.

no, anyone who was even taught the basics of sword fighting would know better - the time it took to unleash a swing was greater than that it would take to fight. so minus the swords that were curved for better effectiveness in slashing, most swordfights would be minutes long, with both combatants jabbing and poking at each other until one is lying on the floor, slowly bleeding out.

of course, that is not nearly as fun to describe as a long, drawn out battle between two rival gods, slashing and parrying each other at high speeds, stabbing rarely...


this siggy is everything you hate about me mixed into one bundle of joy
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17 Feb 2016 11:37 PM
What...


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TheLegoGamerDude1 is not online. TheLegoGamerDude1
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18 Feb 2016 12:05 AM
To end him rightly, you must unscrew the pommel and throw it at him

"DUPLO!? I'LL 'DUPLO' YOU IN THE NUTBAG!"
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eikoopmit is not online. eikoopmit
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18 Feb 2016 02:15 AM
"To end him rightly, you must unscrew the pommel and throw it at him"

I get that reference! Also, I assume that back then it was much easier to unscrew the pommels, and as such that would have made it more practical.

De jongen drinkt de melk. All you need to know is that "Jongen" means "Boy" and you've learned yourself some Dutch.
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TheLegoGamerDude1 is not online. TheLegoGamerDude1
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18 Feb 2016 03:08 AM
It would probably depend on the sword, and the smith
I'm sure some pommels were actually easier to remove, but sure other pommels weren't

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eikoopmit is not online. eikoopmit
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18 Feb 2016 07:20 AM
The swords were all uniform in design - the "end him rightly" tactic is from a book on standardized duels using a specific system, in which everyone had a sword, spear, buckler and one other weapon (I forget what it is off the top of my head, though).

De jongen drinkt de melk. All you need to know is that "Jongen" means "Boy" and you've learned yourself some Dutch.
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TheLegoGamerDude1 is not online. TheLegoGamerDude1
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18 Feb 2016 03:53 PM
I was talking more generally, but in terms of duels and tournaments you're probably right

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