eikoopmit
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| 17 Feb 2016 08:26 AM |
Please note that this is entirely in English.
Man yt wol to ye to hond swerd lern bothe close & clere / He most haue a goode eye both fer & nere & an in stop . & an owte stop . & an hauke qrter. A cantel . a doblet . an half for hys fere Too rowndys . & an halfe wt a goede cher . This ys ye ferst cownter of ye too hond swerd sere Bynde hë to gedere & sey god spede . Two qrters & a rownde a stop thou hÿ bede A rake wt a spryng yer thou hÿ a byde . ffalle in v an hauke & stride nogte to wyde Smyte a rënÿg qrter owte for hys syde ffal a pö hys harneys yf he wole a byde Come in wt a rake in euy a syde An hole rownde & an halfe . Wath so ht be tyde . iiij. qrters & a rownd . & aueture stroke wyth Bere vp hys harnes & gete thou ye gryth Dobyl vp lygtly & do as y seye ffal in wt an hauke & ber a goede eye A spryn~ & a rownde & stap in wyth Spar nogth ä hauke yf he lye in thy kyth Smyte a rënÿg qrter for owte of thy honde A byde a pon a pëdent & lese not thy londe Smyte in ye lyfte foete & cleue rygt dovne Geder ovte of thy rygte hond & smyte a hauke rovnde ffresly smyte thy strokis by dene And hold wel thy lond thath hyt may be sene Thy rakys . thy rowndis . thy qrters a bowte Thy stoppis . thy foynys . lete he fast rowte Thy sprynys . thy quarters . thy rabetis also Bere a goede eye & lete thy hond go ffy on a false hert yt dar not a byde en he seyth rovndys & rakys rënyng by hs side ffle not hastly for a lytil pryde ffor lytil wote thy adusary wath hÿ shal be tide lete strokys fast folowe aftr hys honde And hauk rovnde wt a stop & stil yt thou stond Greue not gretly thov yu be tochyd a 1yte ffor a aftr stroke ys betr yf thou dar hÿ smyte A gode rovnde wt an hauke & smyte rygt dovne Gedyr vp a doblet & spar not hys crovne Wt a rownde & a rake a byde at a bay Wt a rënÿg qrter sette hÿ oute of hys way Thys beeth ye lettr yt stondÿ in hys sygte To teche . or to play . or ellys for to fygte These beeth ye strokys of thy hole grovnde ffor hurte . or for dynte or ell~s for dethys wonde.
If you can't read it (illiterate swine!), allow me to paraphrase it - you guys don't know how to swordfight, nor do you know what swordfighting actually looks like. You are unable to accurately describe swordfighting tactics and maneuvers in your RPs due to your lack of knowledge of whatever the hell a "rowndys" is, I honestly don't know either.
This is only sorta relevant, but I thought it worth sharing. |
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| 17 Feb 2016 09:09 AM |
| in actual swordfighting you beat the snot out of people with whatever's around you |
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| 17 Feb 2016 09:10 AM |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFiIDl_mt2c
this is what my friends and I did for a class in highschool |
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eikoopmit
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| 17 Feb 2016 09:27 AM |
Crap, I forgot to cite my sources. Harleian manuscript 3542 is where I got this poem from, in case anyone was wondering about the legitimacy of this post.
De jongen drinkt de melk. All you need to know is that "Jongen" means "Boy" and you've learned yourself some Dutch. |
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| 17 Feb 2016 11:00 AM |
| You remind me of Ignatius J. Reilly, except without being interesting nor entertaining. |
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| 17 Feb 2016 11:31 AM |
"De jongen drinkt de melk. All you need to know is that "Jongen" means "Boy" and you've learned yourself some Dutch."
Similar to German: Der Jungen trinken die milk", only that Jungen would be plural in this case ;o |
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eikoopmit
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| 17 Feb 2016 05:55 PM |
It's a siggy that I had from months ago when I was into language learning that I keep forgetting to change.
De jongen drinkt de melk. All you need to know is that "Jongen" means "Boy" and you've learned yourself some Dutch. |
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| 17 Feb 2016 06:16 PM |
"A gode rovnde wt an hauke & smyte rygt dovne"
So... "A goat round why and choke & smite right down" |
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birmie123
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| 17 Feb 2016 09:29 PM |
swordfighting, in reality, is not two combatants slashing at each other, battles going on for hours, with special cool moves with heavy strikes across an opponent's body.
no, anyone who was even taught the basics of sword fighting would know better - the time it took to unleash a swing was greater than that it would take to fight. so minus the swords that were curved for better effectiveness in slashing, most swordfights would be minutes long, with both combatants jabbing and poking at each other until one is lying on the floor, slowly bleeding out.
of course, that is not nearly as fun to describe as a long, drawn out battle between two rival gods, slashing and parrying each other at high speeds, stabbing rarely...
this siggy is everything you hate about me mixed into one bundle of joy |
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| 18 Feb 2016 12:05 AM |
To end him rightly, you must unscrew the pommel and throw it at him
"DUPLO!? I'LL 'DUPLO' YOU IN THE NUTBAG!" |
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eikoopmit
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| 18 Feb 2016 02:15 AM |
"To end him rightly, you must unscrew the pommel and throw it at him"
I get that reference! Also, I assume that back then it was much easier to unscrew the pommels, and as such that would have made it more practical.
De jongen drinkt de melk. All you need to know is that "Jongen" means "Boy" and you've learned yourself some Dutch. |
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| 18 Feb 2016 03:08 AM |
It would probably depend on the sword, and the smith I'm sure some pommels were actually easier to remove, but sure other pommels weren't
"DUPLO!? I'LL 'DUPLO' YOU IN THE NUTBAG!" |
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eikoopmit
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| 18 Feb 2016 07:20 AM |
The swords were all uniform in design - the "end him rightly" tactic is from a book on standardized duels using a specific system, in which everyone had a sword, spear, buckler and one other weapon (I forget what it is off the top of my head, though).
De jongen drinkt de melk. All you need to know is that "Jongen" means "Boy" and you've learned yourself some Dutch. |
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| 18 Feb 2016 03:53 PM |
I was talking more generally, but in terms of duels and tournaments you're probably right
"DUPLO!? I'LL 'DUPLO' YOU IN THE NUTBAG!" |
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