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Re: are we sure these two languages arent related?

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Kuyrukluyildiz is not online. Kuyrukluyildiz
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17 Feb 2016 05:33 PM
English: There are a lot of little apples in my pocket.
Turkish: Cebimde çok küçük elma var.
Hungarian: Zsebemben sok kicsi alma van.
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Kuyrukluyildiz is not online. Kuyrukluyildiz
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17 Feb 2016 05:34 PM
if you know the phonetic systems of these two languages it just makes seem even more similar i cant get over this
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Kuyrukluyildiz is not online. Kuyrukluyildiz
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17 Feb 2016 05:36 PM
turkish:
c is like an english j, like jam
ç is like ch like china
ü is same as german ü

hungarian:
zs is like a french j, or like z in seizure
s is like sh like should
cs is like ch like china

now read it!!! these two sentences sound similar
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Kazhar is not online. Kazhar
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17 Feb 2016 05:38 PM
Russian is related with Greek
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Kuyrukluyildiz is not online. Kuyrukluyildiz
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17 Feb 2016 05:39 PM
"Russian is related with Greek"

well sure it is duh they are both indo-european languages like i mean russian is also related with english, german, spanish, iranian, hindi, etc even if distantly related
but linguists dont agree that hungarian and turkish are related whatsoever not even distantly
but that sentence is way too similar
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Kazhar is not online. Kazhar
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17 Feb 2016 05:42 PM
I like you OP, you are different from the other users in these forums.
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Salamified is not online. Salamified
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17 Feb 2016 05:46 PM
similar sound doesn't = a relationship


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Havemeat is not online. Havemeat
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17 Feb 2016 05:48 PM
they could be, im not a linguistic expert
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Kuyrukluyildiz is not online. Kuyrukluyildiz
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17 Feb 2016 05:50 PM
"similar sound doesn't = a relationship"

you're missing the point
the grammatical structure is exactly the same, down to the agglutination and syntax and everything
and its not just words that would be borrowed, i mean words like "small" and "to have" and "very" usually dont get borrowed from other languages, and so... you tell a language's roots by these simple basic words that arent typically borrowed
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Havemeat is not online. Havemeat
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17 Feb 2016 05:52 PM
oh wow, i love how op nearly directly took this post from yahoo answers.
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Kuyrukluyildiz is not online. Kuyrukluyildiz
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17 Feb 2016 05:55 PM
no i sorta found it on duolingo... it was a post that said: "My native language is Hungarian, and now I realise, that there are many similarities with the Turkish. For example, a sentence: Cebimde çok küçük elma var - Zsebemben sok kicsi alma van (means: There are a lot of small apples in my pocket.) The pronunciation is almost, but the meaning is exactly the same. Or other similar words: arpa - árpa (barley), balta - balta (ax), kapi - kapu (gate), sakal - szakáll (beard), deve - teve (camel) ...

One third of the territories of Hungary was also occupied by the Ottoman Empire for 150 years, but there are also older connections between the two languages. So Hungarian helps me a lot in Turkish."
also here is the grammatical structure...

en: pocket
tr: cep
hu: zseb

en: my pocket
tr: cebim
hu: zsebem

en: in my pocket
tr: cebimde
hu: zsebembe

en: very / a lot
tr: çok
hu: sok

en: small / little
tr: küçük
hu: kicsi

en: apple
tr: elma
hu: alma

en: there is / there are / it exists
tr: var
hu: van
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Havemeat is not online. Havemeat
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17 Feb 2016 05:56 PM
lol
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110917062242AArRISK

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Kuyrukluyildiz is not online. Kuyrukluyildiz
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17 Feb 2016 05:58 PM
what? thats barely even similar to my post......
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Havemeat is not online. Havemeat
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17 Feb 2016 05:59 PM
i mean you even used the same sentences

A whole sentence can be derived of the similarity between the two languages. "Zsebemben sok kicsi alma van" in Hungarian, would be "Cebimde çok küçük elma var" in Turkish. The linguistic concept of "there is/there are" is represented with a single word (van/var) only in Turkish and Hungarian. The number of similar words are too many to count here, but some examples are sok/çok, kicsi/küçük, alma/elma, balta/balta, kec/keçi (that's me lol!), zsep/cep, ki/kim, szaz/yüz, and thousands of others.
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17 Feb 2016 05:59 PM
sinii i made a "rate me" thread on /b/ with your hotdog pic and everyone told you to kys
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17 Feb 2016 06:01 PM
"i mean you even used the same sentences

A whole sentence can be derived of the similarity between the two languages. "Zsebemben sok kicsi alma van" in Hungarian, would be "Cebimde çok küçük elma var" in Turkish. The linguistic concept of "there is/there are" is represented with a single word (van/var) only in Turkish and Hungarian. The number of similar words are too many to count here, but some examples are sok/çok, kicsi/küçük, alma/elma, balta/balta, kec/keçi (that's me lol!), zsep/cep, ki/kim, szaz/yüz, and thousands of others."

i got this from duolingo though, from a native hungarian speaker on the english to turkish subforum.......... i just pasted the post for you...
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Kuyrukluyildiz is not online. Kuyrukluyildiz
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17 Feb 2016 06:01 PM
"sinii i made a "rate me" thread on /b/ with your hotdog pic and everyone told you to kys"

no, they told YOU to kys, not me, i did not make that thread, they were replying to you because it was your post
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17 Feb 2016 06:02 PM
well they copied it from yahoo answers
wait is this sinii
of course such a pointless post
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TomNichelGaming is not online. TomNichelGaming
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17 Feb 2016 06:02 PM
no they were referring to the picture because it was ugly af and i told them u were a tranny
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Kuyrukluyildiz is not online. Kuyrukluyildiz
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17 Feb 2016 06:04 PM
"well they copied it from yahoo answers
wait is this sinii
of course such a pointless post"

uh, no, he didnt (i just verified its a guy so we can call him he now)
hes a native speaker, and tbh he probably just remembered it, not from the yahoo post even, its probably like something that someone who knows both languages just knows, idk i cant explain it
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Kuyrukluyildiz is not online. Kuyrukluyildiz
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17 Feb 2016 06:05 PM
"no they were referring to the picture because it was ugly af and i told them u were a tranny"

i didnt post it though, you did, and you catfished them, so basically, they told YOU to kys not me
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Cizox is not online. Cizox
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17 Feb 2016 06:05 PM
dont they both derive from latin
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TomNichelGaming is not online. TomNichelGaming
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17 Feb 2016 06:05 PM
no they were referring to the picture how stupid are you
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Kuyrukluyildiz is not online. Kuyrukluyildiz
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17 Feb 2016 06:06 PM
"no they were referring to the picture how stupid are you"

they were replying to you, and they said kys, and i wasnt there, so how could they be referring to me as "you", if i literally wasnt there.
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Kuyrukluyildiz is not online. Kuyrukluyildiz
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17 Feb 2016 06:07 PM
"dont they both derive from latin"

no, these languages have no relation with latin...
these arent indo-european languages
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