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Re: Just a question for you pro scripters.

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HufftyPuffty is not online. HufftyPuffty
Joined: 26 Feb 2010
Total Posts: 8409
13 Feb 2016 05:17 PM
You're all so talented at scripting. Why dont you just take that talent, make a game, and reap the benefits. You could all easily make a decent roblox game that could bring in a nice flow of robux into which you could dev into... Why dont you do this?
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DrHaximus is not online. DrHaximus
Joined: 22 Nov 2011
Total Posts: 8410
13 Feb 2016 05:19 PM
nobody cares about robux
plus, ROBLOX owns all the games you make

we also never finish anything
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HufftyPuffty is not online. HufftyPuffty
Joined: 26 Feb 2010
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13 Feb 2016 05:20 PM
yeah nobody cares about robux. but robux is a gateway to actual money. you dont like actual money? And what do you mean roblox owns all the games you make??
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DrHaximus is not online. DrHaximus
Joined: 22 Nov 2011
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13 Feb 2016 05:21 PM
>but robux is a gateway to actual money

not really, though.

"ROBLOX Corporation owns all the content on ROBLOX.com. If you create a game, author a model, or write something that catches our eye on a message board, we might want to use it on the site or elsewhere. By submitting your content and comments, you (or your parents) are agreeing that it's okay for us to use it in an ad, or any way we want, anywhere. "
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HufftyPuffty is not online. HufftyPuffty
Joined: 26 Feb 2010
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13 Feb 2016 05:23 PM
I cant seem to understand your point. The fact if Roblox enjoys your content and wants to give it advertisement seems like free publicity. And you cannot deny the fact that you can use Roblox as a fulltime job.
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DrHaximus is not online. DrHaximus
Joined: 22 Nov 2011
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13 Feb 2016 05:25 PM
@huffty

what are you talking about?
you forfeit your rights of your creations by using ROBLOX as a development platform, clear and simple. here's a better way to represent that quote:

"ROBLOX Corporation owns all the content on ROBLOX.com. If you create a game .. you .. are agreeing that it's okay for us to use it .. any way we want, anywhere."

clear and simple.

as for your "full-time" ROBLOX job, I wouldn't hold my breath.
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HufftyPuffty is not online. HufftyPuffty
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13 Feb 2016 05:26 PM
If you can create a game that thousands of people play everyday. This game will keep bringing a steady cash flow into your life. Roblox isn't going to come along and say "Sorry, this is our game, goodbye" and steal the game from you.
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RecurringNightmare is not online. RecurringNightmare
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13 Feb 2016 05:27 PM
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DrHaximus is not online. DrHaximus
Joined: 22 Nov 2011
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13 Feb 2016 05:28 PM
"This game will keep bringing a steady cash flow into your life."

top kek.
making a game you don't own and profiting from the pure promise and grace of ROBLOX is the definition of an unstable cash flow.

"Roblox isn't going to come along and say "Sorry, this is our game, goodbye" and steal the game from you."

no?
how do you know that, huh?
if they do decide to, who do you have to cry to?
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HufftyPuffty is not online. HufftyPuffty
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13 Feb 2016 05:32 PM
IF YOU ARE bringing in thousands of players to their website WITH YOUR GAME, they wouldn't in a million years take that game from you. You are supporting their company. If they are paying you maybe 60k a year. they are making 500k just off of your game. So they're making a huge profit. I fail to see why you think roblox is some corrupt business trying to screw people over. If anything, they are going to offer you a job to come work for them, as they have done to numerous people... *Mic Drop*
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DrHaximus is not online. DrHaximus
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13 Feb 2016 05:34 PM
"IF YOU ARE .."
*with their website

"bringing in thousands of players to their website WITH YOUR GAME"
*their game

"they wouldn't in a million years take that game from you."
why not?
bigger piece of the pie for them.

"You are supporting their company. If they are paying you maybe 60k a year. they are making 500k just off of your game."
*their game
why not just take the 60k to add to their 500k?
they can make your game a lot better than they can!

"So they're making a huge profit."
not as big as it can be.

"I fail to see why you think roblox is some corrupt business"
i'm not!
they're COMPLETELY within their rights to take "your" game.
they own it.

Mic drop indeed.
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HufftyPuffty is not online. HufftyPuffty
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13 Feb 2016 05:35 PM
When is the last time they have stolen a game from someone? Oh never? okay point proven
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DrHaximus is not online. DrHaximus
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13 Feb 2016 05:37 PM
"When is the last time they have stolen a game from someone?"

lmao.
how would you know?
people get banned for the stupidest stuff every day, I haven't seen any riots.

this isn't a _stable_ income.
it's a shot in the dark whether your game gets popular, it's a wish in a well for ROBLOX to not take *THEIR* game from you.
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81cheney is not online. 81cheney
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13 Feb 2016 05:39 PM
I have an idea for the both of you. Stop fighting, it won't do any good.
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RecurringNightmare is not online. RecurringNightmare
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13 Feb 2016 05:39 PM
@dr;
so what do u do on roblox
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HufftyPuffty is not online. HufftyPuffty
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13 Feb 2016 05:39 PM
I'm not fighting. I just cant seem to understand why he is so against Roblox. as if they have screwed players over in the past. They are a good company with good intentions.
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HexC3D is not online. HexC3D
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13 Feb 2016 05:40 PM
For the first time haximus spoke the truth
god bless. xd
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DrHaximus is not online. DrHaximus
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13 Feb 2016 05:42 PM
"I just cant seem to understand why he is so against Roblox. as if they have screwed players over in the past. They are a good company with good intentions."

it's not about "bad" intentions, or "good" intentions for that matter
they own your stuff.

if they don't want to pay you for it, that's completely fine. you agreed to the ToS.
now go make some games for them, monkey.

@recurring
I don't play ROBLOX
i just hang with the cool people from the forum on slack
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RecurringNightmare is not online. RecurringNightmare
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13 Feb 2016 05:42 PM
ah figured
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128Gigabytes is not online. 128Gigabytes
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13 Feb 2016 05:43 PM
I wouldn't say something is a steady source of income unless you could quit your current job and be fine.

If I had a game that I could cash out max on dev ex or whatever every month I wouldn't quit my job because its a terrible life plan.
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HufftyPuffty is not online. HufftyPuffty
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13 Feb 2016 05:49 PM
last year I got keylogged and lost 1m worth of items. That is the equivalent of 2,500 dollars if I were to sell all my items. I emailed Roblox begging them to help return my items because I was in shock that I lost everything I had worked so hard to get. Within a month or so they returned every single item I lost. Now tell me, why would they have ever of done that to some kid that messed up because of his stupid self. Because this company isn't here to screw people over as I have previously said. Everyone that claims they got banned "For no reason" have all have a record of being sharkers and scammers. And then they cry and plea that they did nothing wrong.
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nicemike40 is not online. nicemike40
Joined: 19 Dec 2008
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13 Feb 2016 05:50 PM
Ignoring whatever is going on above me...

Scripting a game is only part of the process. If you dropped a good artist, animator, level designer, and writer into my lap, I could script you a really excellent game!

There are some people who can do all those things by themselves, and I applaud their work ethic and talent. For me, I'm really good at making prototypes of cool things that are really neat from a programming perspective and "minimalist" design (i.e. I can't model for my life).

Another problem is the platform -- if you really want to attract the kinds of people I mention above, you're going to need a more serious platform (where, yes, you're not legally forfeiting all the assets your team creates).
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DrHaximus is not online. DrHaximus
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13 Feb 2016 05:53 PM
@hufty

>"WHY WOULD THEY DO THIS TO SOMEONE"
>"ROBLOX IS A GOOD COMPANY"

ughhh
it's like you're not reading my replies

"it's a shot in the dark whether your game gets popular, it's a wish in a well for ROBLOX to not take *THEIR* game from you."

"if they don't want to pay you for it, that's completely fine. you agreed to the ToS."

i'm not going to argue further about this, you can't beat a chicken at chess.
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Tynezz is not online. Tynezz
Joined: 28 Apr 2014
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13 Feb 2016 05:56 PM
you know you can use something like unity and make more profit


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nicemike40 is not online. nicemike40
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13 Feb 2016 05:58 PM
Now, actually getting into the stuff above because it's actually interesting to me:

DrHaximus is NOT saying that ROBLOX is an amoral or "evil" company. They are, however, a company. OP, you're right in saying that they probably won't steal your game from you. However, a few things to note:
- You have to pay them (have OBC) quite a chunk of change to even consider making money off of the games you create
- The DevEx program is handled on a personal, case-by-case basis. At any time they like they can refuse your payment, and you will have no legal case (it's not a employer-employee relationship)
- It is incredibly difficult to generate enough revenue on a game that it could potentially bring in as much as a good, full-time job.
- As I said in my last post, you're legally forfeiting all assets used to make your game when you create it with ROBLOX's game engine. Uploaded art, sounds, animations, designs, code -- it all belongs to ROBLOX and you may be in trouble trying to recreate your game on a separate platform.
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