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Re: [FOREST CLAN] "Leaving" the clan world

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Alpakas is not online. Alpakas
Joined: 05 Jun 2013
Total Posts: 7926
08 Feb 2016 06:07 PM
*WE'RE NOT SHUTTING DOWN-WE'RE NOT SHUTTING DOWN-WE'RE NOT SHUTTING DOWN*
What clans used to be: Fighting and flaming
What clans are now: Unfair forts, admin abuse, flaming, power clans, more or less banning new players and forum drama. Notice that I didn't say fighting

PREAMBLE (skip unless u really wanna just a rant): I've heard many people say the clan world is 'irreparable', I thought they were wrong and that I can some how change it. The oppisite side has always pulled BS in every war I've fought, and only 2 of 6 victories we've claimed have been recognized by the enemy despite overwhelming proof. I've wanted to lead a top clan on this game since I was 10, TFC came close to it and I honestly think with time and effort any one can lead a top clan, of course I neither have time nor effort now, not enough to lead TFC to it's potential anyways. People just assumed TFC was trash and when we got good players with my 'step' recruitment system people accused us of hiring mercs. You cant get good. You're always just trash or mercing.

No we arent shutting down, what we are doing is leaving the 'clan world' in order to create a parallel clan world. One in which members fight with guns instead of HRs with words, one which focuses on pure fun, which this game was designed for rather than arbitrary ranking by a cancerous subforum.

What we will do is stop trying to be #1 or top ___

And start having "fun" wars and only "fun" wars

Here's what a "fun" war is:
-We'll stop warring clans out of hate
-We'll only engage in friendly wars without raid count
-No war scores
-Both sides must accept
-In time frame (eg 1 week)
-No winning
-Either side may exit for any reason
-Minimal flame/drama

We will continue to support our allies in their wars if they support

We'll also remove defeated lists (Dont really care if clans like 'fmc' keep us on theirs top kek)



This is not a move of fear, I'm the guy who declared war on VOID, I have no fear. We'll maintain our base and people from the old clan world are more than open to raid us. This is rather of a move of Antiestablishmentarianism(i just wanted to use that word rip) because we're tired as hell of the clan who shall not be named (we're gonna cease flaming for the most part unless they ask for it) hacking our chat and using admin gui and eventually carrying out large arguments on the forums



The only reason we'll go back to the old clan world is if our members demand it.

To be clear we'll continue warring clans with defeated lists etc etc. if they follow our war reqs


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GetSporked is not online. GetSporked
Joined: 05 Jul 2012
Total Posts: 7972
08 Feb 2016 06:11 PM
seems good to me.

rad
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CIocksmith is not online. CIocksmith
Joined: 16 May 2012
Total Posts: 30418
08 Feb 2016 06:11 PM
"power clans"
we both used to lead powerclans, arcitsu
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GetSporked is not online. GetSporked
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08 Feb 2016 06:14 PM
powerclans are tryhards, but most clans are even as a big clan.

WINK WINK

rad
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Alpakas is not online. Alpakas
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08 Feb 2016 06:14 PM
Arcanium was a swords only power clan tho top kek
Either way once you zoom out you gotta realize that power clans are killing the clan world
There's a lot of things I dont like about you ciock but I respect you for mass recruiting new members into TCC
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Brookwest is online. Brookwest
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08 Feb 2016 06:14 PM
im joining
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Valkyrieius is not online. Valkyrieius
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08 Feb 2016 06:14 PM
good


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Alpakas is not online. Alpakas
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08 Feb 2016 06:16 PM
"good"
is that a compliment or an insult lol
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ThatsJustGreat is online. ThatsJustGreat
Joined: 31 Mar 2010
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08 Feb 2016 07:04 PM
This is a good attempt. Though this hardly denotes any real function to the clan world.
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GetSporked is not online. GetSporked
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08 Feb 2016 07:07 PM
besides all the flame and hate wars lmao.

rad
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ThatsJustGreat is online. ThatsJustGreat
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08 Feb 2016 07:07 PM
By that I mean, only smaller clans will follow in your footsteps. This is only a conceptual idea... I don't think this will never really be able to serve real purpose.

Others have tried countless times to reach the same goal and all have failed.
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ThatsJustGreat is online. ThatsJustGreat
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08 Feb 2016 07:08 PM
*I don't think this will ever serve real purpose.
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GetSporked is not online. GetSporked
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08 Feb 2016 07:10 PM
we will succeed :)

if only small clans do it with us then oh shucks. won't matter as long as all drama is out and we play for fun, aka the point of roblox.com

rad
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Mazux is not online. Mazux
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08 Feb 2016 07:18 PM
Unique. I like it.
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Alpakas is not online. Alpakas
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08 Feb 2016 08:02 PM
@That
Even if other clans dont follow in our footsteps we'll still have fun wars and different people will know what clan to join for pure fun
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pwnd64 is not online. pwnd64
Joined: 31 May 2011
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08 Feb 2016 08:06 PM
join us brothers, vive la revolution

maybe clans can be revived with this new ideology. it's certainly a start.

if any clan leaders are reading this and actually taking me seriously you should join us in this

it's the way of the future

the way of the future

the way of the future


you pizzad when you should have pied
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iGenasus is not online. iGenasus
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08 Feb 2016 08:19 PM
Well, do whachuwant but don't forget to change the ranks with fun ranks.


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Alpakas is not online. Alpakas
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08 Feb 2016 08:33 PM
its a revolution!
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Shaymin990 is online. Shaymin990
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09 Feb 2016 03:25 AM
This seems like i good idea less flame more gun fighting.


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romuluz is online. romuluz
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09 Feb 2016 03:34 AM
I dislike your war setup for 2 reasons.

1) No victor=pointless wars.

2)Both sides needing to "accept" and one side leaving whenever one wishes only further disrupts the point of wars and is completely counterproductive to what clans are. We've spent a year with setups similar to this and recently people have begun to realize that over-regulated or pointless wars have only helped to kill off interest in clans.

Furthermore, this whole post is trying to further disrupt the clans world and will help nothing. It will tear the clans world in two, and since small clans are JUST now making a small comeback, it would be a shame to see this split the small clans community into two and push us back by months. I highly discourage this choice and highly discourage any clan from following TFC's choice of creating a 'parallel' clans world.
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bluecheetah14 is not online. bluecheetah14
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09 Feb 2016 03:51 AM
1) No victor=pointless wars. [2]



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iBurka is not online. iBurka
Joined: 28 Sep 2013
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09 Feb 2016 04:26 AM
sounds okay but I would change the part where there is no victor in a war, otherwise the whole idea is pointless.

victoria621 // 14 day'd (+8k posts) // every accomplishment starts with the decision to try
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Fracticial is not online. Fracticial
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09 Feb 2016 05:06 AM
there's fun in a war....
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1roy9993 is not online. 1roy9993
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09 Feb 2016 05:32 AM
Kinda funny how you've been doing the same sht as you've talked about here
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ExiledMillennia is not online. ExiledMillennia
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09 Feb 2016 08:03 AM
//- Argument -//

This truly... has got to be THE stupidest thing I have ever read. How is a war 'fun'?

Wars are about dominance. About proving your army is stronger than someone elses.

Let me explain why this is stupid;
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//- Reasoning -//

-We'll stop warring clans out of hate

Well then why have a war if it isn't about hating people? Many raid FEAR because they have a poor reputation over the years. Not by popularity; but by unfairness and attitude.

-We'll only engage in friendly wars without raid count

Then how will clans know who is winning and who is losing? How will you keep track of how many raids and defenses you win?

-No war scores

Same as above, not needed. And also, not claiming wins is like saying the war never happened. Get a brain, seriously Al...

-Both sides must accept

Don't they do that anyway...? Or was I confused this entire time?

-In time frame (eg 1 week)

ONE WEEK? Unless both clans are super active, you'll only get like 1-2, possibly 3 raids in.

-No winning

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa!!!...

...No.

-Either side may exit for any reason

THEN HOW IS IT A WAR? PEOPLE CAN JUST LIE! Seriously, you really should have thought it out better...

-Minimal flame/drama

Just put "Mininal/No Flaming" as a fort rule.

Done.

============================
//- Aftermath -//

Before you flam and hate on me;

Let me say that this isn't all of a bad idea. It just needs a lot more editing and would need to be explained better. So instead of;

-We'll stop warring clans out of hate
-We'll only engage in friendly wars without raid count
-No war scores
-Both sides must accept
-In time frame (eg 1 week)
-No winning
-Either side may exit for any reason
-Minimal flame/drama

How about these?; [Side note; this is am example.]

- We shall not war a clan unless challenged or provoked.
- We will only engage in wars accepted by the other team.
- In order for the war to be declared, the other side must accept the terms and agree.
- Time frame can be discussed, minimum time; 1 week, maximum time; 4 months.
- Either side may exit if you have a valid reason such as Inactivity, New Place Requirement, Etc. You must also have proof.
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//- Conclusion -//

While in my opinion it is rather stupid, this would be a good way for smaller clans to begin building armies and practicing for real raids and wars. For bigger clans though... I cannot see it working.

Thank you for reading, and have a pleasant day.

~Sovenhell Vektravich
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