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Re: I don't like any of the candidates this political cycle

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Romoism is not online. Romoism
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09 Feb 2016 09:13 PM
Maybe it is just me but as a voter I put more emphasis on his/her personality. When I vote I'm voting for the person, not the party, as usually good policies will be the byproduct of a good personality, not the other way around.

This election cycle none of the candidates that I have seen have shown to me the leadership qualities that I want in a President, likewise the ones that do sparingly (Trump, Sanders) have views that are completely unrealistic for a President to do by himself and have failed to grasp what the role of president is.

the GOP, who have been focusing so much on attacking Obama-someone who won't be there when they are president and are thus irrelevant-that they have steered away from presenting any of the ideas that they might have as president and how they plan on executing those ideas.

On the Democratic side Hillary Clinton has shown zero accountability for any of her actions and is one of the most out of touch candidate I have seen in years. Bernie Sanders, while doing an excellent job of pinpointing problems our nation is facing, has ideas that are unrealistic and unachievable.

Maybe my biggest concern with this election cycle is that the frontrunners for the parties are trying to appeal to the far left or far right of their party that the bad ideas both parties contain aren't being kept in check. The left and right are supposed to compliment each other instead of opposing each other.

This election lacks a candidate who contains the qualities needed to lead the US while also being a moderate, which is who I would vote for.
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FolesPhilly is not online. FolesPhilly
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09 Feb 2016 09:17 PM
For me the biggest issue is Campaign finance. 90% of the politicians are literally in the back pocket of their donors and thats why I support Bernie or Trump (preferably Bernie) I also thought Rand Paul was a solid candidate until he dropped out.
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habs100 is not online. habs100
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09 Feb 2016 09:20 PM
never understood why people say that they dont like Sanders because his goals are "unachievable". Just as one example, 83% of Americans support universal healthcare, which is one of his main points. even if he doesn't achieve all of his goals completely, progress is good

Bernie2k16
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DarkImperiator is not online. DarkImperiator
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09 Feb 2016 09:32 PM
Or maybe because Bernie isn't a good candidate
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perrandude is not online. perrandude
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09 Feb 2016 09:35 PM
The Bernie argument is invalid if people went to every election that's relevant to us. Not just the presidential election. I'm talking about the House Reps elections and the Senate elections. Bernie's goals are achievable if there's a Congress that can work with a President Sanders.

Bernie Sanders and John Kasich are the most experienced politicians and they are the most qualified and are the most progressive candidates for either party's standards. Donald Trump also has an authenticity value that's a No BS attitude. People like Jeb Bush are fake and are completely super-PAC run and they need their 90 y/o mother in a walker to attack Donald Trump for him
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perrandude is not online. perrandude
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09 Feb 2016 09:36 PM
"Or maybe because Bernie isn't a good candidate"

He's a very good candidate. He's authentic and has spoken the truth for 35+ years in politics. He has rarely ever changed his stances on issues (you can look up a video where he debates Wall Street greed with John Kasich in 1995 when they were both in the House of Representatives) unlike Hillary "Criminal" Clinton.
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DarkImperiator is not online. DarkImperiator
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09 Feb 2016 09:40 PM
I don't support Hillary Clinton
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perrandude is not online. perrandude
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09 Feb 2016 09:41 PM
I know you're a Republican, but Bernie Sanders is better qualified and more experienced than HRC. That was my point
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DarkImperiator is not online. DarkImperiator
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09 Feb 2016 09:42 PM
Hillary is just plain dumb
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perrandude is not online. perrandude
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09 Feb 2016 09:44 PM
She's not necessarily dumb, if you ask me, she's just politically unstable. Ben Carson is dumb.
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DarkImperiator is not online. DarkImperiator
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09 Feb 2016 09:44 PM
The end of america is near if she gets elected.
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privatezackv3 is not online. privatezackv3
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09 Feb 2016 09:46 PM
so many politically enlightened people here
i wish i was like them


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perrandude is not online. perrandude
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09 Feb 2016 09:46 PM
Again, not necessarily, but it won't be because of HRC's work alone, it will be if she appoints a good cabinet and team of advisors

Remember that Ronald Reagan began the US deficit and it only took Bill Clinton to bring us back to a balanced budget
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Trig0n0metric is not online. Trig0n0metric
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09 Feb 2016 10:48 PM
bill clinton balanced the budget after heavy pressure from a republican controlled congress
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doctorgonzo is not online. doctorgonzo
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09 Feb 2016 10:49 PM
bill clinton also destroyed glass-steagel which lead to bank deregulation which lead to the destruction of the economy. the clintons are just republicans with a smile
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perrandude is not online. perrandude
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09 Feb 2016 10:52 PM
"bill clinton balanced the budget after heavy pressure from a republican controlled congress"
The Gingrich gang had little to do with his executive efforts, while I must admit Congress wasn't in as much gridlock then as it is today

"bill clinton also destroyed glass-steagel which lead to bank deregulation which lead to the destruction of the economy. the clintons are just republicans with a smile"
I am aware the Clintons are against Glass-Steagall and support the corporate greed of Wall Street's recklessness but Bill certainly did a better job than Ronald Reagan did with the economy.
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perrandude is not online. perrandude
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09 Feb 2016 10:52 PM
I am also aware the Clintons are Republicans with a smile. They were both formerly Republicans and only talk for poll numbers
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doctorgonzo is not online. doctorgonzo
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09 Feb 2016 11:03 PM
reagan did less than the clintons to destroy the economy
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perrandude is not online. perrandude
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09 Feb 2016 11:05 PM
not...really...
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Swagudelo is not online. Swagudelo
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09 Feb 2016 11:09 PM
hillary supporters are mad at millennial women for not supporting hillary
madeline albright said there's a "special place in hell for women who don't help other women"

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/08/us/politics/gloria-steinem-madeleine-albright-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders.html?_r=0

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doctorgonzo is not online. doctorgonzo
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09 Feb 2016 11:50 PM
reagan's beef is with the labour and social movements, he worked wonders for the economy. clinton took deregulation into areas where deregulation should not exist


@rune

lol at her parading around lena dunham as if anyone actually views her as anything but annoying
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extemmasfriend2 is not online. extemmasfriend2
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10 Feb 2016 12:03 AM
Hillary Clinton is the most qualified for the job out of all the candidates. Although, I wouldn't vote for her in a million years.

And Ben Carson isn't really dumb, he's just inexperienced.
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FolesPhilly is not online. FolesPhilly
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10 Feb 2016 05:33 PM
No matter what her policies are Hillary would never have my vote. The way she lies and deceives uninformed voters while also being bought out by wall street is despicable. She constantly pulls the gender card and has tried to use 9/11 to justify her wall street donations. She is the definition of establishment politics.
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DarkImperiator is not online. DarkImperiator
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10 Feb 2016 05:36 PM
sir, explain to me how bernie sanders is giving us free college and healthcare
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drbat is not online. drbat
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10 Feb 2016 06:23 PM
I don't get why people think cheaper or even free healthcare/education is bad or impossible. Look at Canada or Finland.



Butch Jones is the real Messiah.
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