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Re: TheFineBros is not copyrighting anything

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StraitOuttaBoston is not online. StraitOuttaBoston
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30 Jan 2016 03:21 PM
You've clearly not read the notice they posted to clarify this.

So many sheep just repeating what they hear.
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StraitOuttaBoston is not online. StraitOuttaBoston
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30 Jan 2016 03:24 PM
JUST LISTEN FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE
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BeefyToes is not online. BeefyToes
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30 Jan 2016 03:26 PM
Okay Dude we get it


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PrincessPearlsOfLove is not online. PrincessPearlsOfLove
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30 Jan 2016 03:30 PM
except they totally are?

/auwFyef


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Night561 is not online. Night561
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30 Jan 2016 03:31 PM
they also technically copyrighted
"TRY NOT TO SMILE OR LAUGH"
so yeah



#code this siggy is copyrighted
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PrincessPearlsOfLove is not online. PrincessPearlsOfLove
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30 Jan 2016 03:32 PM
also of course they are going to make it sound like they arent considering how much bad publicity they are getting

"So many sheep just repeating what they hear."

u literally are doing that right now u are repeating what the finebros are saying


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eternalankh is not online. eternalankh
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30 Jan 2016 03:32 PM
i think they trademarked the word "react" or "react videos"
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StraitOuttaBoston is not online. StraitOuttaBoston
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30 Jan 2016 03:33 PM
No where in the video did they specify that they copyrighted anything.
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PrincessPearlsOfLove is not online. PrincessPearlsOfLove
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30 Jan 2016 03:34 PM
"No where in the video did they specify that they copyrighted anything."

of course they arent going to say they will copyright it in the video are you kidding that video is so "cover our asses"


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StraitOuttaBoston is not online. StraitOuttaBoston
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30 Jan 2016 03:38 PM
@Princess You are literally using fallacies right now, you're just presuming things you can't prove.
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PrincessPearlsOfLove is not online. PrincessPearlsOfLove
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30 Jan 2016 03:43 PM
well i guess u r rite they arent copyrighting anything they are trademarking react but whatever its still bad


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StraitOuttaBoston is not online. StraitOuttaBoston
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30 Jan 2016 03:46 PM
@Princess What ever you say they're not stopping others from making react videos, unless you can prove they are your argument is baseless.
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PrincessPearlsOfLove is not online. PrincessPearlsOfLove
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30 Jan 2016 03:48 PM
also they kinda do say how they are trademarking it in the video

https://youtu.be/r2UqT6SZ7CU?t=1m16s

"Which is the first-of-its-kind program that allows people and companies to licence all of our popular shows online, so that even you watching right now can create your own version in a fully legal way"

this includes

kids react
adults react
teens react
elders react
try not to laugh or smile


and image i have shown u shows all of the things they have filed for trademark including the word "react"


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raceman6743 is not online. raceman6743
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30 Jan 2016 03:50 PM
princess is right


Chicka-chicka boom-boom, fricka-fricka you-you.
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PrincessPearlsOfLove is not online. PrincessPearlsOfLove
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30 Jan 2016 03:50 PM
"What ever you say they're not stopping others from making react videos, unless you can prove they are your argument is baseless."

heres a video and tweet where they bash ellen for doing a segment somewhat similar to kids react

heres the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CMS9xnBRkc

heres the tweet

https://twitter.com/thefinebros/status/513061415016341504


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StraitOuttaBoston is not online. StraitOuttaBoston
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30 Jan 2016 03:52 PM
Kids React is their thing though, you can't take that from them.

Nobody has been able to create the success with reaction videos that they have.
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PrincessPearlsOfLove is not online. PrincessPearlsOfLove
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30 Jan 2016 03:53 PM
"Kids React is their thing though, you can't take that from them."

thats like saying i cant make horror game lets plays because pewdiepie already does them


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mrsm00th1 is not online. mrsm00th1
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30 Jan 2016 03:53 PM
{{{ MANY LINKS REMOVED TO LET THIS REPLY FLY, TAKEN FROM REDDITOR}}}

IMPORTANT EDIT: A user found the actual archived video of Seniors React (created before Fine Bros made Elders React):

Click here to watch:
The creators of this series were threatened and pushed out of making videos by The Fine Bros. This is the kind of legal abuse and harassment that The Fine Bros are trying so hard to convince us they are not doing and won't do.
Please help us find the original creators of Seniors React because we have multiple lawyers now willing to take up cases pro bono. The creator of Seniors React has an amazing claim against the Fine Bros and we may be able to get their Elders React trademark knocked out
Here they are telling their fans to go after Ellen. This forced Ellen to shut down the comment section and make a response tweet (also in the picture): and
They actually deleted this facebook post because their own fans were criticizing them for it, but The Fine Bros should know that what gets posted to the internet stays on the internet.
The Fine Bros are LYING when they tell us they won’t try to shut down other channels
They have already successfully shut down other channels making kids react and seniors react videos by using their lawyers. When they go up against a show as big as Ellen that can legally defend itself, The Fine Bros know they can’t legally threaten Ellen so they use their fans to attack her. This is a pattern of behavior that directly contradicts their claim in their AMA:
2: We are not going after/shutting down/sueing anyone who makes reaction based content.
They are flat out lying.
They use intentionally ambiguous language to confuse you.
3: On the confusion around what we mean by our “format” we do NOT mean “people reacting to videos” we mean the structural elements of the FBE series.
The Fine Bros are trying to make it sound like they are protecting their very narrow niche brand.
They are LYING.
Ask yourselves what possible format The Fine Bros can claim that justifies them attacking and brigading Ellen for her show? The Fine Bros are out of control with their entitlement. Even when they don’t have the power, they are still launching attacks against a huge show like Ellen. What do you think they will do when they finish trademarking “react” and can use their leverage with Youtube to take down any react video they want without even filing lawsuits?
Still believe them when they use ambiguous language to imply they won’t come after you?
The Fine Bros are in damage-control mode. This is their strategy:
They will tell you they don’t and can’t copyright reaction videos. This is a trick. They are not copyrighting but actually TRADEMARKING reaction videos. They have already trademarked Kids React, Teens React, Elders React, and they are almost finished trademarking REACT ITSELF! What does this mean? This means you can’t use those words in the title of your video if your video involves kids, teens, etc. And once they finish trademarking “React” itself, they can come after you for any react videos at all. Before anyone try to defend them by saying they are only attacking videos that are “too similar” to theirs, ask yourselves: How similar was the Ellen video to their Kids React “format”? If even Ellen’s video is considered a copyright infringement, then what kind of a react video involving kids can possibly NOT infringe their “format”.
They will use intentionally ambiguous and confusing words to distract you. They will say they are only trademarking their “format” or their “structure” without actually telling you specifically what they are. Again, ask yourselves, what exactly is their “format”? And why did they feel Ellen’s show stole their format?
When describing the format/structure of their show, they will use small details to distract you from the bigger problem. The bigger problem is they are trademarking the format of having multiple people watching a video and talking about it. That’s it. That’s the amazing format that they think belongs to them. If they actually give us this answer, they know they would piss us off. So they will use details to distract you. They will say that their format is their “intro music” or their “fact cards” or their “timing”. {{CENSORED}}. Ask yourself if Ellen’s show used any of those minor details from Kids React. No. Ellen literally just talked to kids and had them react to some old technologies. None of the distracting details from Fine Bros were in Ellen’s show. This tells us that The Fine Bros considers kids reaction as a whole to be their format and their intellectual property. THAT’S their dirty little truth.
They will avoid describing the core structure of their react videos at all cost. Their core structure is so unoriginal and so unbelievably simple that they will never just outright say it because they know that even the majority of kids that make up their fanbase will call them out. Their core structure is having people watch videos and then answer questions. That’s it. In their upcoming PR blitz, try to get them to admit this. Watch them talk in circles to avoid admitting this.
Summary
If they say they aren’t copyrighting “react”, ask them if they are TRADEMARKING “react”.
When they use ambiguous words like “structure” or “format” force them to define them
When they use small details to distract you from the definition of their “structure” or “format”, tell them that Ellen’s show had NONE of their details, ask them why they felt like Ellen stole their format.
When they keep using PR talk to confuse you, ask them if you are allowed to make a video right now called “kids react to Spongebob” with kids watching a video of Spongebob. They will tell you that no, you are not allowed because you are infringing on their intellectual property. They already trademarked “Kids React”. Then ask them, what will they claim as “their” intellectual property once they finish trademarking “react” itself.
Why is this important
Because if they succeed in trademarking something as simple as a group of people watching a video and answering questions, then EVERYTHING becomes fair game. Think about it, unboxing videos can be boiled down to a similarly simple “format/structure”, it’s just someone opening up a product’s packaging and giving information about it. In fact, this structure may be more complex than the react structure. Or how about video game reviews? The structure is just someone critiquing a game while footage of the game plays in the background. How is this more or less complex than a group of people watching a video and answering questions about it? The list goes on, if the Fine Bros succeed, we are going to see a torrent of these frivolous trademarks getting filed. Youtube won’t be a content site anymore, it will become a legal battleground.
How they are being stopped
Their Sponsors
What they are worried about more than anything right now is losing their sponsors. The reason why they had their staff on full 24 hours a day censorship duty on their original announcement video was because that was their “main video”. Now that they’ve updated a new Elder’s react video, this becomes their “main video” that sponsors will look at to check how they are doing. This is why on their latest Elder’s React video, their top comments are scrubbed squeaky clean. So when they upload their next video, you’re going to suddenly see a bunch of negative comments show up on their Elder’s React video because they no longer need to censor it anymore.
Here’s more on their sponsors:
The company has created branded content for Universal Studios’ “A Million Ways to Die in the West,” AMC’s “Halt and Catch Fire,” Friskies cat food and Audible. “We have a series that is something brands can be organically integrated into,” Benny said. The Fine Bros. are affiliated with YouTube multichannel network Fullscreen. They are repped by WME and managed by Max Benator.
Key point: they “organically integrate” brands into their videos. In other words, when they react to a movie trailer for an upcoming movie, guess who is sponsoring them? And in their latest Elder’s React To Netflix video, guess who is sponsoring The Fine Bros? Once The Fine Bros brand becomes negative enough, at least some of those brands will stop associating themselves with the channel. And the Fine Bros have such huge overhead that they’ll be in serious trouble. But right now, they are doing a good job of hiding the negative comments from their sponsors with their 24 hours a day censorship patrol.
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PrincessPearlsOfLove is not online. PrincessPearlsOfLove
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30 Jan 2016 03:54 PM
"Nobody has been able to create the success with reaction videos that they have."

that doesnt mater


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StraitOuttaBoston is not online. StraitOuttaBoston
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30 Jan 2016 03:57 PM
It does matter though, there is probably a lot of newer people taking inspiration from TheFineBros, now they're being offered an oppurtunity to work with them to create the future of entertainment.
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pennypinching is not online. pennypinching
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30 Jan 2016 03:59 PM
They copyrighted the word "React" and the format of reacting to things and recording them, then uploading them to the internet or television.
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eternalankh is not online. eternalankh
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30 Jan 2016 04:00 PM
is op bait? did we not already prove op wrong?
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SimpleWayfarer is not online. SimpleWayfarer
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30 Jan 2016 04:01 PM
"to create the future of entertainment."

lmao this isn't going to be the future of entertainment
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PrincessPearlsOfLove is not online. PrincessPearlsOfLove
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30 Jan 2016 04:01 PM
"It does matter though, there is probably a lot of newer people taking inspiration from TheFineBros, now they're being offered an oppurtunity to work with them to create the future of entertainment."

1. finebros should not have a monopoly on reaction videos
2. you shouldnt need to be in a network to produce your own content
3. a lot of youtubers have been inspired by angry video game nerd but you dont see him coining "video game review show"


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firekillerd is not online. firekillerd
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30 Jan 2016 04:03 PM
"heres a video and tweet where they bash ellen for doing a segment somewhat similar to kids react

heres the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CMS9xnBRkc

heres the tweet

https://twitter.com/thefinebros/status/513061415016341504
"

my god man they are insane

wtf is that tweet

..... were they dropped on the head ??
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