Swagudelo
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| 23 Jan 2016 09:19 PM |
| i would hardly call voting for donald trump "responsible" |
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| 23 Jan 2016 10:09 PM |
| socialism has worked so well these last 8 years lets get another one in office |
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| 23 Jan 2016 10:12 PM |
| don't refer to Obama or Sanders as a socialist, as neither are lmao |
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| 23 Jan 2016 10:12 PM |
don't refer to Obama or Sanders as a socialist, as neither are lmao
SANDERS OPENLY REFERS TO HIMSELF AS A SOCIALIST LOOOOL |
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| 23 Jan 2016 10:13 PM |
| And so what if they don't openly call themselves Socialists? If their policies mirror Socialist ideals, then THEY'RE SOCIALISTS! |
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drbat
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| 23 Jan 2016 10:14 PM |
If you think Obama was a socialist president you're joking yourself.
Look at the greatest presidents since 1900. Many of them where socialist. You may not realize it but this country is as good as it is today because of Socialism.
Butch Jones is the real Messiah. |
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| 23 Jan 2016 10:15 PM |
| nono, Sanders refers to himself as a Democratic Socialist which is different. |
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| 23 Jan 2016 10:16 PM |
| one of the biggest socialists of them all prolonged the great depression by a good 5-7 years |
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| 23 Jan 2016 10:17 PM |
| democratic socialism mirrors socialism on many issues |
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Logaids
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| 23 Jan 2016 10:17 PM |
Sanders isn't a socialist, he's just left wing which is a huge change of pace in the US.
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| 23 Jan 2016 10:17 PM |
| democrats take unpopular ideologies and rename them and find a different way to present them. |
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| 23 Jan 2016 10:18 PM |
Sanders isn't a socialist, he's just left wing which is a huge change of pace in the US.
democratic SOCIALIST |
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Logaids
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| 23 Jan 2016 10:18 PM |
He's not renaming anything, you just haven't seen any genuine left wing candidates.
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| 23 Jan 2016 10:21 PM |
all left wingers fall back on "oh, no one's ever perfected our ideas.. they've all tried and failed."
guess what, if you've gone 100 years without any sort of noteworthy success, it's probably not going to work no matter how many times its tried.
proof against communism/socialism is the jamestown experiments. |
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| 23 Jan 2016 10:24 PM |
"guess what, if you've gone 100 years without any sort of noteworthy success, it's probably not going to work no matter how many times its tried."
you're right, scandinavia is an absolute warzone, isn't it?
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drbat
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| 23 Jan 2016 10:24 PM |
Some of the best countries to live in are socialist.
Denmark Finland Netherlands Canada Sweden Norway Belguim
It is sad that the 1% can convince everyone that Socialism is bad. Socialism is bad for the 1% because it takes money they get and gives it to common people.
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| 23 Jan 2016 10:24 PM |
@trig: >Obama >socialist
AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you're delusional as hell.
Obama doesn't believe in the means of production being controlled by the workers, making him not socialist by default.
"if i find out that razor teeth has been making fun of me, i'll turn him into cat food and lots of it"
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| 23 Jan 2016 10:24 PM |
it's obvious no one has PERFECTED them, as they are very difficult to perfect, but the places it's worked the best i'd consider some of the best countries in the world.
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drbat
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| 23 Jan 2016 10:26 PM |
It is actually impossible to have anything perfect. If you think what America has right now is perfect you're joking yourself. If you think Democracy is perfect you're joking yourself. If you think Communism is perfect you're joking yourself. If you think Socialism is perfect you're joking yourself. Any type of government, it isn't perfect.
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| 23 Jan 2016 10:27 PM |
| crime in scandinavia would be much more violent if all the countries were the size of the us |
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| 23 Jan 2016 10:28 PM |
Some of the best countries to live in are socialist.
Denmark Finland Netherlands Canada Sweden Norway Belguim
bias opinion, show me a list that says these countries are the best to live in.
and don't give me msn, cnn, or abc, give me a legit, unbiased source |
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| 23 Jan 2016 10:29 PM |
If you think what America has right now is perfect you're joking yourself. If you think Democracy is perfect you're joking yourself. If you think Communism is perfect you're joking yourself. If you think Socialism is perfect you're joking yourself. Any type of government, it isn't perfect.
ethical capitalism is as close to perfection as you can get |
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| 23 Jan 2016 10:30 PM |
@trig: Population size and crime rate aren't correlated at all you moron. If it did, then Toronto, Ontario (population: 2.6 million) would have a very similar murder rate to Chicago (population 2.7 million). But Toronto's murder rate is 2 per 100k people (and that's high by Canadian standards, mind you). Chicago's is 18.5 per 100k people.
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| 23 Jan 2016 10:30 PM |
"crime in scandinavia would be much more violent if all the countries were the size of the us"
that's why the murder RATE in Sweden is about 4 times smaller than the murder rate in the US. What that means is that in the US you have a 4x better chance of being murdered than you do in Sweden.
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