TH3N1GHT
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| 18 Jan 2016 07:35 PM |
Ranks: (The standard presidential, founder, etc are at your disposal, Director and below are stated here.) Director Deputy Director Unit Leader Chief Special Agent Counter-Terrorism Detachment Security Detachment Investigation and Law Enforcement Detachment Special Agent Agent Probationary Agent Agent in Training (can only be on team if ordered or permitted) Suspended
Tools: (What DSS should be given) AR15 TAC CL10 (Access to bunker.) Arrest tool. (DSS is LE) Info Tool DSS SUV (All black, sirens.) Tazer (No spike strip this time, it isn't necessary.) Agency Motorbike. Gate tool. (Possibly for USMB and DSS HQ.)
REASON FOR USMB ACCESS: The DSS in real life works closely with the military and during some times the officials are escorted to USMB for safety. The DSS is NOT the military and will listen to the Military whilst in their base.
Spawn: I suggest the spawn be located in or near the USMB, since DSS works closely with the Military. (In between DoJ and USMB, a small building with the standard stuff.)
Extra info: DSS is LE, intelligence and security, the jack of all trades. However, the agency does have its benefits to the USA, it will be extremely hard to get into, so that those in the agency are known not to abuse power, brag, or are immature. It is extremely important to know they don't order, or take orders from anyone outside the agency. (Unless in agency HQ or other jurisdictioned areas.) The DSS will protect bank escorts (Due to being LE.) , government officials (Mainly in the DOS spectrum, DSS is apart of the Department of State.
To congress: I am aware you aren't very approving over what goes in and what goes out of the White House and other Secret Service Areas, but I assure you, this is for the better. When in SS only areas, the DSS will listen to SS for the most part, but remember, the Secret Service isn't the same as DSS and vice versa. The DSS has SS clearances to help the Secret Service, and leaves SS jobs to the SS.
The DSS only protect the members in DOS, Foreign Diplomats, Foreign Leaders. Occasionally, with Secret Services permission, and a reason for it.. When the SECSTATE is with POTUS or VPOTUS, DSS will help coordinate with the Secret Services, and help both VIPs. DSS is can also conduct Domestic or Foreign investigation cases. So, whether the Rogue Foreign Diplomat committed a Crime, the DSS can help with FBI and among other investigation to help clear or fix, etc. - JamesMThompson
Thank you for reading this and thank you for your time. I hope this revised version fixed any problems with the previous bills. - TH3N1GHT
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| 19 Jan 2016 09:41 PM |
Support.
~ Incumbent Secret Service Deputy Director, TacticalEspionage
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| 20 Jan 2016 01:49 AM |
Support.
- Deputy Secretary of State (2x). - Secretary of State - Chief of Staff of DOS - Ambassador from DOS - DOS Security. |
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nian10
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| 20 Jan 2016 06:00 PM |
| No there not gonna help jack $&@& and it will be ineffective since not a lot of people even go to DC, your just adding another useless agency |
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TH3N1GHT
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| 20 Jan 2016 09:07 PM |
I understand you think that way, but the DSS brings jobs, members, interest and activity, and if members aren't respecting others, they will not be tolerated. And by the way, have you never put any effort into trying to create, mold, work with the people and make something that you're proud of? And have you ever had that one person you absolutely hate for just trying to bring you down? Don't be that person, you have felt other people be like that, why would you be like that?
Sincerely, TH3N1GHT. |
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| 21 Jan 2016 12:55 AM |
DSS isn't entirely ineffective and useless...
It would be saying that Secret Services is ineffective and useless.
DSS has a purpose, a reason, and the description is fixed for ROBLOX-style. |
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| 21 Jan 2016 10:57 AM |
Support on the idea
... However,
Some things I DO NOT support:
CL10 - DSS should not have bunker access - Irl they would be shot if they tried to get in.
USMB CLR - Should be restricted to when a "VIP" is in the base, else it'll just get hectic.
White House CLR - With SS permission, maybe but when a VIP is in the WH DSS should help secure the outer gates. Either way, DSS tag WILL say "White house access denied". However, the SS D and WHCoS can grant it in their tools.
Not much else
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| 21 Jan 2016 12:42 PM |
No Support, there is no need for DSS if we have a security rank in DOS. Also, there is no use for this in DC, as we do not have many ambassadors.
They will not be granted access to the white house, any shape or form. An ambassador should not even be inside the White house unless discussed and arranged with the President.
Even if this bill passes, it will be put down, as Justin is not going to make useless agencies.
Regards Mario
Current Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security Longest Incumbent Secretary of Homeland Security Future Secretary of Homeland Security. |
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TH3N1GHT
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| 21 Jan 2016 05:39 PM |
Again, stop being negative, you have no idea how much this bill will help and you deny it because you refuse to have creativity. I advise you consider other's aspirations and ideas before immediately putting something down because it's new, I understand you are afraid of change, everyone is.
Sincerely, TH3N1GHT. |
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TH3N1GHT
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| 21 Jan 2016 05:41 PM |
USMB and White House were both my entire idea of access, where SS should be more lenient on letting DSS in. Now what you are wrong on, is CL10, DSS should have bunker access, and IRL they wouldn't get shot, they're actually of a higher clearance than you'd think, so yes, they should have bunker access. Thank you for your imput.
Sincerely, TH3N1GHT. |
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| 22 Jan 2016 10:14 AM |
Well, In this USA. They Will.
DSS will not be granted CL10, neither WH Access.
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| 22 Jan 2016 11:49 AM |
Support NSA TFO SWAT trainee MPD Probationary officer CIA DD In training
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fennas76
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| 22 Jan 2016 11:59 AM |
| Ok, I have herd enough in this matter none of your god forsaken opinions will change anything the decision is up to the HOR, Myself and the other senators. However this bill does need a sponsor. |
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TH3N1GHT
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| 22 Jan 2016 04:51 PM |
Fennas, but their opinions do matter, America is a country for the people, not the congress. Mario, I'm done being nice, stop being a butthurt pessimist just because there's going to be a new agency that might be better than yours.
Sincerely, TH3N1GHT. |
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xEnforcer
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| 22 Jan 2016 05:39 PM |
DSS doesn't have to pass via a bill - the SECSTATE can open it himself, if he wants to.
HOWEVER - The Department of State doesn't doesn't require security - they barely do anything worthwhile, so what's the point of adding a security force to an almost useless department.
USMB access shouldn't be allowed, nor should WH access. DoS has a HQ for a reason.
"Extra info: DSS is LE, intelligence and security, the jack of all trades." This isn't at all true, DSS won't have the capabilities of doing intelligence operations. If they do IOs, it'll illegitimate our intelligence community, creating more problems. DSS should be security for the DoS and only that. It's not important at all, it's simply diplomatic security you nubs
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TH3N1GHT
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| 22 Jan 2016 05:46 PM |
It is true, it is necessary, and I'm sick of negativity.
Sincerely, TH3N1GHT. |
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xEnforcer
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| 22 Jan 2016 05:53 PM |
"Necessary"
That's like saying BoP or USCP is necessary. When was the last time you saw DoS ingame? DSS is a useless enity that will take capable people away. We have barely any skilled persons willing to take important positions, and creating more useless jobs isn't smart.
Please, give me a legitimate reason for DSS to be opened besides "DOS needs security" or "it'll create more jobs".
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| 22 Jan 2016 06:00 PM |
Again, like everyone saying..
If you really think DSS is useless..
Then we "Pro-DSS Bills." Have the right to think that, Secret Services are useless.
And I've been hearing people opinions, that SS is inactive. Not doing crap. So, yeah, SS would be pointless.
Only, DSS is suppose to be more loyal, more mature, more legit than Secret Services are.
And you're right, this is a Secretary of State's budget holds... So we don't need anyone approval only the Secretary of State.
But then, we need a DEVELOPERS to make our place fair, and give us weaponry, and protection.
DSS doesn't get CL10 "Presidential Bunker Access." But, the State Department HQ itself, NEEDS a dang Bunker.
It's realistic and realism, that State Department in Washington does actually have their own Bunker.
Which means we should have one too. And better building with not just a glass building, huge open door space, and a meeting room and one office. We need it smaller, but bigger inside. With offices, bunker, meeting room, Lobbyist.
I am sick and tired of criminals easily killing Secretary and his Staff, and making DSS entirely useless to our Protection. Almost no other LE's even help us.
So if you want our Department to look stupid and defenseless to criminal who interupt our chance of meeting, and alliances possibility. Then go ahead and ignore, this is why State Department has been inactive, because State Department has nothing to do at DC.
We tried going to Foreign Nations, but they say "No.", "You're too small." or "We're already allied to this kind of USA."
You think we haven't done a good job of getting alliances? I JUST EXPLAINED TO YOU UP THERE..
It's boring and useless to go after nations who won't accept us, and criminal killing us in DC. |
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TH3N1GHT
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| 22 Jan 2016 06:03 PM |
Legitimate reasons? Well for starters, it will bring jobs and DOS needs security, so that should be reason enough, but okay. To start, this entire group was founded on realism, what's the point in ruining it. And if DSS gets active, wouldn't DOS do the same? (A: Yes it would.) And you've never seen DOS in DC because you rarely ever go there. So, when's the last time you've seen the VP in a server? Also, the DSS is a REAL agency, that does REAL things, and it is the jack of all trades, investigations, intelligence, security and LE. Look it up. So yeah, stop putting bills down because you're pessimistic and terrified of something new or change. And of course the POTUS or SECSTATE can open it, but I felt the need to make it a bill because people should be able to decide on it, not have an inactive Vice President telling them how they should think.
Sincerely, TH3N1GHT. |
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xEnforcer
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| 22 Jan 2016 06:11 PM |
First off, there is no need to attack me personally. Really, I've done more in a month than you have your entire time in this USA. Second off, DSS doesn't need WH or USMB access - it's unrealistic. You never addressed my points, and instead of countering them you restated them with a personal attack. That's extremely unwise.
CL10 doesn't exist, I don't get why DoS is autistic enough to believe it does. Jayso said he had it before, and you're saying DSS deserves it now. The highest clearance level that exists is CL7 which is the founder.
Please get some actual facts, and then we can talk.
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| 22 Jan 2016 06:28 PM |
Mr. Vice President, please stop correcting people on the fact that CL10 doesn't exist. We've addressed this point multiple times. THE TOOL AT DC IS CALLED CL10.
And if the developers would stop complaining about how DSS won't get bunker access, then they'll need to make a separate one for DSS. DSS protects VIPs, just as SS does. |
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| 22 Jan 2016 07:01 PM |
I know, Mr. TH3N1GHT was saying that we get CL10.
But I explain to him that DSS doesn't get CL10 nor Presidential Bunker.
I said this before, and I said this on the wall. We heard you, and we know.
LET ME CLEAR THIS AGAIN; DSS DOES NOT GET CL10 OR PRESIDENTIAL BUNKER ACCESS.
Secretary of State can get a bunker access, because they are Cabinet and it's only on POTUS order to do it. |
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| 22 Jan 2016 07:03 PM |
Also, I wasn't personally attacking you. I am giving you a clear facts of what I know about DOS and DSS. So if you want to prove me me wrong, go ahead.
But with all due respect, Mr. Vice President, do you know more about DOS than I do? If so, by all means, give me the sources, and all the State Department records.
I'd like to be proved wronged, so I may fix it. |
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xEnforcer
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| 23 Jan 2016 05:49 PM |
ugh
u guys r really bad at arguing
ur points r so weak I could write a 1000 word essay to prove you all wrong
but i'm 2lazy c; |
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