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Re: [VAK] Hold the Line!

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Zach1102 is not online. Zach1102
Joined: 20 Aug 2010
Total Posts: 48576
22 Jan 2016 05:48 PM
Nice clickbait, isn't it? While this thread will feature some wisdom from my experience in VAK, it's primarily geared for new clan leaders.

A thing that drives success is how your group is perceived by the community. For all our examples, we will use an imaginary name: Toxic Squad.

Now Toxic Squad is led by a new clanner called VileFiend41. Vile managed to get 40 members in a week and around 6 to events. Then a larger clan, UAF, raids them. IT is 15 to 6 and Vile has no idea what to do. Desperate, he screams out, ":kick all" and gets rid of the raiders. He suddenly is messaged by a concerned member who directs him to the forums. Shocked, Vile discovers half a dozen threads bashing Toxic Squad for "aa'ing".

-- TLDR1: AA'ing is bad.

A few days later, Vile managed to recover his reputation with a lot of apologies and stuff. Then comes WIJ raiding. It is 12 to 7 and Toxic Squad decides to play fair. Despite having inferior numbers, they fight harder than ever before and refuse to give up. WIJ gets tired and leaves.

-- TLDR2: Never retreat from a raid. No matter what. It defines your clan and builds a reputation.

Allegations suddenly arose, where an angry WIJ officer named "StickApprenticeLiam" accused Vile of using aimbot and mercs. C&Gers hopped on the hate wagon and began mocking Toxic Squad. After all, who likes a cheater?

--TLDR3: People will attack your reputation and make up lies. Ignore it. The hate will disappear after a few days.

The next week, everybody seemed to have forgotten about the hate Toxic Squad had. TS got in a war with Leaf Empire, with ended after 3 raids when the LE leader, JamalQuantum, began flaming people on the forums and screaming "AUTOWIN FOR LE". Vile was about to call autowin of his own, but thought better of himself.

--TLDR4: Claiming autowin does not make your clan any better. If an enemy refuses to fight, just move on and keep your reputation.

Another series might follow later. If you enjoyed this brief guide, leave a post.
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CommanderCales is not online. CommanderCales
Joined: 20 May 2011
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22 Jan 2016 05:50 PM
Nice advice! :)
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Ekerot is not online. Ekerot
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22 Jan 2016 05:52 PM
Thank you for this information Zach, I'll be sure to process it :^)
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55Altair is not online. 55Altair
Joined: 18 Oct 2008
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22 Jan 2016 05:53 PM
all of which are rules that Zach never learned from my experience

"AA'ing is bad"

admin abused several raids back when his clan tried to fight caesar's legion

"Never retreat from a raid"

not only did his members retreat from the raid but they joined my group and later raided him

"People will attack your reputation and make up lies. Ignore it."

my group ruined his rep so bad that he begged me not to make him surrender

"Claiming autowin does not make your clan any better"

he claimed auto win then later surrendered after i posted the chatlogs in which he tried to convince me not to show the world how badly he lost
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Zach1102 is not online. Zach1102
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22 Jan 2016 05:54 PM
altiar, you literally have done nothing but make a semi-decent raiding clan that died without you, and got HR in void.

That's it.
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55Altair is not online. 55Altair
Joined: 18 Oct 2008
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22 Jan 2016 06:01 PM
"altiar, you literally have done nothing but make a semi-decent raiding clan that died without you, and got HR in void.

That's it."

-competed on the best RCL team that ever was (post-duke/gannex pspmc)

-started RCL 1v1 duels in april 2013 a week or two after the release of bricktops

-popularized RCL practice scrimmages and had the best RCL team in the clan community not including mercs/pmcs, having scrims declined by WIJST and beating paul's ELV, TRAE, etc.

-owned a top 5 clan that fought TGI in its prime and gained its respect enough to be invited into coalition of steel

what have you done? gained weight for 4 years and posted garbage like this on the forums
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enzo90 is not online. enzo90
Joined: 25 Mar 2012
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22 Jan 2016 06:06 PM
Now.. let us make the contrast advice (AKA C&G sins)
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Zach1102 is not online. Zach1102
Joined: 20 Aug 2010
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22 Jan 2016 06:06 PM
99% of your achievements have the words "Rcl" in it

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Legion1x is not online. Legion1x
Joined: 22 Apr 2012
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22 Jan 2016 06:13 PM
LOL
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55Altair is not online. 55Altair
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22 Jan 2016 06:13 PM
99% of your food has 10 grams of trans fat
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