RECL4IMER
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| 18 Jan 2016 05:44 PM |
I do not want to make a fuss about events that have already passed, died and few of you care about. But when matters concerning XI are twisted I feel obligated.
We will start with the most common accusation and misconception that XI has faced following FOA's withdrawal from the war: Soticule Forces DID NOT act as mercs for the Infantry.
Paul joined Xerxes Infantry on my request as he is a friend and who would waste an opportunity to recruit such a skilled combatant into their clan on the brink of war?
The war started with the agreed raid times of 4-9pm EST. On the first day of the war XI achieved two raid wins without any soticule forces being present besides Paul and one of the members he recruited.
However on the second day of the war before the allowed raid times, KingEfrainIV came to a negotiation with my High ranks that FOA could practice raid our fort and vice versa without it counting to the raid score. Paul321321 (who was promoted to an Officer in XI due to his experience in leadership and combat skills) took along a lot of SF to defend XI's fort in an unofficial raid which KingEfrainIV said was fine. NONE OF THEIR WINS COUNTED TO THE WAR SCORE.
However when I got onto kik as I had been away all of the second day I was told by multiple members to copy FOA and update the war score to 4-3. When in reality it was 2-1, this I admit was a blunder from me and was a simple error of miscommunication. As soon as I had seen it was before the allowed raid times and that SF was the one raiding/defending I removed it and changed it back to 2-1. As NONE of the raid wins achieved on that day were official by either FOA or XI.
As a result of FOA counting none official raid wins my HR's made the calculated decision to postpone all raids for that day so they could discuss things with Dystra.
Now onto the question: "So why did your member count rise so dramatically?"
Paul321321 bought in 8 Soticule Forces members which I put a stop to instantly. The reason XI's member base rocketed was because we were at war, and in my experience when at war people join the clans to get involved; and I am not going to decline eager fighters join requests. We have gained some valuable members who have stayed with us since.
Just too get it into your heads that XI members achieved the official raid wins here is a Screen shot of them: (gyazo)
Pre war raid: dbc012023fdbbfd758662750e9ca72f4 (SF assistance) 48232a5760294502a8585a1c7a8c39ad a6285e702e962d9e08a74eb6ad358a05
In these raid wins there were 3 SF members who followed Paul max. We are perfectly capable of raiding and beating FOA independently.
Now onto the unofficial SF wins:
This is a imgu-r album made by Paul showing the top two being our raid wins achieved by XI members. And the bottoms two being the unofficial raid wins achieved by Soticule Forces.
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The accusations that XI refused to defend being the only reason we were in the lead.
I will start off by admitting our activity is not as great as FOA's which I commend them for. However on the first day of the war being the only day official raid wins were achieved Xerxes Infantry only raided FOA 2 times with the two raid wins we had to our name. Whereas FOA raided XI twice as much with us having to loop defend.
In the particular debated situation, Xerxes Infantry had just defended off FOA for the second time and were preparing to raid FOA back. But FOA made a 3rd server demanding that we defend it at once, there was nothing in the war terms made about having to defend over and over without countering and so we ignored their cried to defend and raided them back.
After this we did what they did and made a second server and was preparing to raid again when FOA HR's called all FOA members to fall back and they refused to defend until further discussions were allowed to occur.
Me and my 2IC R3PELLER went to go meet with Dystra among other FOA HR's, but when we got there he stated his "new" war terms and spammed in the ":m" message about how there was no negotiating. My 2IC was disconnected and so naturally and probably a little rashly I out an instant end to them discussions.
Following on from this Paul321321 acted as a mediator and bought me and Dystra together. We agreed on the following things.
To defend every server that FOA created within reason. That XI could raise their official member count for a raid to 8 just as FOA's and to add in a terminal.
However Dystra after seeing the terminal refused it (even though it's positioning was favorable to the raiders) claiming it would not work in a KO fort even though the fort was designed to be able to function with both forms of raiding systems.
As I really wanted this war to go on and he was threatening to pull out I accepted this and did not add a terminal.
However following on from this he edited his base switching the Raider and FOA spawns around without my permission which was a violation of the war terms. Despite this I still let him have his own way as I again, wanted the war to continue. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Concluding FOA's withdrawal from the war: I was rash to put FOA on the defeated list with a war score of 2-1 and so have moved them to the alternate list displaying those turning down XI's wars.
I believe this to be a fair place to put FOA and a fair stance to end on as you need to remember. XI had removed all of the unofficial raid wins, the score was still 2-1 and FOA pulled out mid negotiations and not XI. We at the time were still eager to carry on.
FOA claims to have proven themselves superior to XI. But in what sense?
All of the official raid wins were XI, and although it is no score to boast about in less raids we were in the lead.
With this I am formally ending all hostilities with the Federation of Arcadia, I only made this forum to give those with interest the true side of the story.
Mistakes were made on both sides, but I found Dystra to be the most stubborn and irrational clan leader on Roblox and would discourage anyone from opening the prospect of war up with FOA.
This will be XI's only and last comment on the matter of the XI-FOA war; it's a shame what had the potential to be such a fun and challenging war came to such a bitter ending.
Have a nice day.
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R3PELLER
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oxley902
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Melenius
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Syravyn
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| 18 Jan 2016 05:52 PM |
I may be Arcadian but I can honestly say both sides should have thought over war terms from a more professional aspect. If either you or Dystra had the common sense to think of the flaws before the war started, then neither side would be here arguing about it. So before you and him go off on a "my side was more correct" fuss, just note you both will always be in the wrong due to your previous actions.
Get dunked on. |
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RECL4IMER
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| Joined: 14 Apr 2015 |
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| 18 Jan 2016 05:55 PM |
"Mistakes were made on both sides" I accept that.
But I was not going to stand by and take blame for false accusations.
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pistoria
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| 18 Jan 2016 05:58 PM |
rip in arcadia
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ahpricity
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| 18 Jan 2016 05:59 PM |
| FoA isn't the only clan to have a problem with an XI war. |
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Purgence
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| 18 Jan 2016 06:02 PM |
| Well due to your rep i can say you are wrong. FoA isn't the only clan to have trouble with wars against you. |
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| 18 Jan 2016 06:03 PM |
| FoA isn't the only clan to have a problem with an XI war. [2] |
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| 18 Jan 2016 06:03 PM |
Pretty fair across the board.
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| 18 Jan 2016 06:03 PM |
you had enough to defend each server, we had a server running at your base and you rallied 18, but later dismissed
activity wasnt the issue |
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| 18 Jan 2016 06:03 PM |
"Me and my 2IC R3PELLER went to go meet with Dystra among other FOA HR's, but when we got there he stated his "new" war terms and spammed in the ":m" message about how there was no negotiating."
Prove it. I used :m to demand silence from my own men, and I stated the addition of a rule to defend all servers was non-negotiable - you were not going to be cowards and simply defend one at a time.
"That XI could raise their official member count for a raid to 8 just as FOA's and to add in a terminal."
I did NOT agree to add in a terminal. Where's the proof?
"As I really wanted this war to go on and he was threatening to pull out I accepted this and did not add a terminal.
However following on from this he edited his base switching the Raider and FOA spawns around without my permission which was a violation of the war terms. Despite this I still let him have his own way as I again, wanted the war to continue."
I did NOT threaten to pull out, I simply demanded that you leave the base as it is.
Furthermore, the spawn change was a very reasonable change, something I told you about and you had no qualms with ( I have proof ). If we broke the war terms, why didn't you say anything? You merely let it go by, and now you're attempting to bring up this base change to put us further in the wrong.
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R3PELLER
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| Joined: 22 Apr 2010 |
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| 18 Jan 2016 06:07 PM |
>You mean TCC?
Well would you like me to get the link to where they AA'ed us during raids and loopkilled people?
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| 18 Jan 2016 06:09 PM |
I have proof of you refusing to negotiate with me as well.
You fought a war like total cowards, there shouldn't need to be a war term concerning defending all servers. You declared war upon us strictly for publicity.
You are a third-world clan, and not so far into the future, you will be unrecognizable again.
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meepo44
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| 18 Jan 2016 06:10 PM |
While at the same time as this was clearly handled poorly by XI.
I can personally testify that Dystra whereas his stubbornness proves well for a group leader it often gets him into situations such as this where negotiating becomes incredibly irritating.
I can't really apologize for any damage your clan may have suffered from this interaction but from now on I will be watching much more closely our negotiations if this is honestly what it leads too. |
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R3PELLER
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| 18 Jan 2016 06:12 PM |
"its over stop being a #####"
Then what was the point in this thread, you scumbag? Defending your non-existent reputation?
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R3PELLER
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| 18 Jan 2016 06:12 PM |
| Holy hell man, did someone dump a bunch of salt in your mouth? |
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| 18 Jan 2016 06:12 PM |
| the tcc war wasn't even official lol please provide proof it was |
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RECL4IMER
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| 18 Jan 2016 06:12 PM |
Dystra, you're a silly goose.
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