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BenBonez is not online. BenBonez
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31 Dec 2015 04:44 PM
... where a consecutive leader actually outperformed the original owner in terms of say recruitment, activity, and other factors?

And by that I'm not referring to no-name clans that wen't from 10 to 20 members.

My theory is that in say 90% of the cases the ones who create successful groups are the only ones fit to lead in general, not the ones who earn a HR within it and eventually "earn" the group. I personally can't recall any case where when the group was passed down (especially superclans) their situation improved, instead rather often their situations got drastically worse.

Are the original leaders to blame for not picking proper successors?



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31 Dec 2015 04:45 PM
end urself
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Dystra.
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ie with tom
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Dignatio.
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lick is not online. lick
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yes benbonez wa a better leader than the creators of rcl and made it more active and recruited more members
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Dignatio
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TheUltimation
Rivilized's SC?

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IanSplodge is not online. IanSplodge
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No, it's the community that believe that the new leader is inferior due to their lack of acceptance and ignorance to the full picture. The communities suppress the new leaders and downgrade them from what they were.

"I find your lack of faith disturbing"

~IanSplodge, Walrus God of the Forums.
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lamborghinifighter is not online. lamborghinifighter
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31 Dec 2015 04:49 PM
i was given CN by the old leader

its going father than his era
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assasinlord5 is not online. assasinlord5
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31 Dec 2015 04:49 PM
i cant remember if prag was the original owner of sc or not, if not then prag

also ct

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31 Dec 2015 04:50 PM
possibly frigid
only time will tell
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BenBonez is not online. BenBonez
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31 Dec 2015 04:50 PM
@Blackmask

Who owned FC originally?

Rivalized's SC improved the situation but it's not really what I meant, since in that case SC was practically dead and it didn't take much to improve it in that sense

@IanSplodge

Don't think so, I think there is a big difference in being a leader/owner and a HR


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CT
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Jjjakey?
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Nick's era of SCR



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BenBonez is not online. BenBonez
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31 Dec 2015 04:54 PM
I think the only thing that changed within FC from jjjakey to Dignatio was that FC essentially turned into a powerclan and gained respect for that, pretty sure they used to get a lot more activity when they still catered noobs


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31 Dec 2015 04:55 PM
Polymorphic?
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lick is not online. lick
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I am glad you asked BenBonez of the history of Frost Clan!

Frost Clan was created in 2009 by Underworldruler. The next two leaders were Apocalyptical and ThePhantomHourGlass, who is now known as Meowmixxed/Benblue. Ownership of Frost Clan was eventually transferred to Pizzaman1000/Dignatio. On October 22 of 2013, Dignatio retired, handing the leadership role to jjjakey.

Frost Clan achieved superclan status in March 2010, with the rising popularity of the Frost Clan Headquarters. Several other groups then declared war on Frost Clan.

Frost Clan also participated in a major war during this era against the First Encounter Assault Recon, allying with The Roblox Assault Team, and the United Clan of Roblox.

Frost Clan declared war on The Robloxian Army in 2011, defeating the group after a long war. BTMpire was another group that was defeated by Frost Clan in the early era of Dignatio's reign. X-101st was also defeated by Frost Clan.

In 2012, Warmystro2 held an invasion that targeted Frost Clan. The Invasion made Frost Clan decide to go to war with The Vaktovian Empire. The war started in November 2011, and was temporarily halted in February 2012. Both the Vaktovian Empire and Frost Clan, along with other groups of an alliance known as the United Powers, went to war with a superclan known as John's Cobras. After John's Cobras surrendered to Frost Clan, the war with The Vaktovian Empire continued. The war resulted in a tie, with both clans signing a treaty.

In November 2012, Frost Clan defeated a controversial superclan known as Team Domino with a dominating streak of continuous raid victories while losing none at all, thus ensuring Frost Clan's victory over Team Domino. The victory was later confirmed when the second in command of the group Wierdo1337's surrendered to Frost Clan. The war lasted a week, with a score of 80-0, on FC's favor.

In February 2013, Frost Clan went to war against the X-101st Legion, owned by OcularVision aka LordVade. The war lasted somewhere between two to three weeks, ending in a similar manner to the TD war, with an HR surrendering against a win count of 27-0 FC.

In October of 2013, Dignatio, Frost Clan's longest running King retired. Dignatio then appointed new Council Members and made veteran member 3t3t9t a Frost Lord.

On March 30th of 2014, Black Wolf Empire got involved in a short war with UCR , UAF and Frost Clan. After mass raiding two servers of FC Fort Wolf II, BWE could not beat Frost Clan. BWE reportedly surrendered afterwards, thus ending the war in a day.


On August 6 2014, VOID , a powerclan led by ISOLAYTOR , declared an endurance war on Frost Clan. Three days passed, the war was declared a tie.

Frost Clan almost participated in the 2014 Clan Battle. Although their members participated in numerous games, the clan's focus was on Medieval Melee. However, this battle was anything but clean; Frost Clan's main focus was surpassing the popular trading group Trade., which took the lead for quite awhile. There were accusations of cheating from both sides. Nonetheless, Frost Clan emerged victorious, and their win resulted in yet another hat for Frost Clan.

Sometime in August, EL and FC went to war. EL surrendered to FC, with a war score of 13-1, on FC's favor.
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assasinlord5 is not online. assasinlord5
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31 Dec 2015 04:56 PM
underworldruler owned fc either first or second, then after him was dig
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lick im not reading that


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deathstroke is not online. deathstroke
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31 Dec 2015 04:57 PM
FC technically lost to VOID we were generous enough to give you a 3rd win since it was only a friendly war
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BenBonez is not online. BenBonez
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31 Dec 2015 04:57 PM
Polymorphic fair enough since he got RAT out of a hole
JamalMarely no not really


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