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Re: Why don't you think more gun clans are FPS?

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AwesomeKillerKevin is not online. AwesomeKillerKevin
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30 Dec 2015 12:46 PM
Is it because its too generic to COD/BF games or because it requires a higher level of scripting, or both
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Belmontlegend255 is not online. Belmontlegend255
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30 Dec 2015 12:48 PM
people are too used to third person and are afraid of new ideas

but the main thing is that the clan creator is mostly afraid that if they make a FPS style clan they would scare off a lot of mainstream clanners even though they would more than make up for it in terms of newbie members
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Belmontlegend255 is not online. Belmontlegend255
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30 Dec 2015 12:49 PM
plus the fact that raiding becomes an issue, since now your clan members are going to be much more used to FPS
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Poorlawn is not online. Poorlawn
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30 Dec 2015 12:49 PM
roblox has an unlocked camera
it gives you the ability to choose between first and third person
they are allowing us to make a choice, but every seem to think the roblox wanted us to use third person

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Kiritsugu is not online. Kiritsugu
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30 Dec 2015 12:51 PM
uh because they dont have to be and tbh since 99% of clans dont use it it'll put soldiers at a disadvantage if they are used to fighting in fps
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BenBonez is not online. BenBonez
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30 Dec 2015 12:52 PM
"they are allowing us to make a choice, but every seem to think the roblox wanted us to use third person"

>Willfully putting yourself at a massive disadvantage


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mcclos is not online. mcclos
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30 Dec 2015 12:52 PM
FPS IS TERRIBLE
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Resonating is not online. Resonating
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30 Dec 2015 12:53 PM
1. Not enough good scripters to make it well
2. Too different from conventional clan combat
- this scares people from joining but also scares people from associating with your group as far as wars and raids go.
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Poorlawn is not online. Poorlawn
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30 Dec 2015 12:54 PM
disadvantages is whats people work together

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DeathRanger1148 is not online. DeathRanger1148
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30 Dec 2015 12:55 PM
In all honesty, it's because people are content with what they have, and that is the main problem. When you are comfortable with where you are right now, innovation and development ceases.

Now I down know BenBonez enough to judge him, but from a business standpoint I'd say he doesn't want the community to implement FPS because that would mean less RCL styled clans.
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BenBonez is not online. BenBonez
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30 Dec 2015 12:58 PM
@DeathRanger

Can people stop making that assumption jesus
I could put out an FPS version of RCL any day but I think it's pointless and people need to figure out themselves that 3rd person is one of the reasons clans are unique, one one hand they are crying about uniqueness within the BN and on the other hand they wanna turn clans into generic BADLY MADE first person shooters that remove the sense of community*

*Name me ONE FPS that has a community like ROBLOX clans


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DeathRanger1148 is not online. DeathRanger1148
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30 Dec 2015 01:01 PM
@BenBonez

I see where you're coming from, but can you elaborate on how first person shooters remove the sense of community? I understand that the third person RCL style is unique, but how does that effect the players in the community?
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BenBonez is not online. BenBonez
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30 Dec 2015 01:03 PM
I really can't explain that's why I urge you to try yourself, go make a clan for a week or two and FORCE people to FPS, you can recruit newbies rather than C&Gers since people seem to think it affects it.

It is different, you don't see your character, you have a much more limited view of the world, you miss a lot of what's going on


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Belmontlegend255 is not online. Belmontlegend255
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30 Dec 2015 01:09 PM
ben FPS is a much more engaging and familiar style to newbies in ROBLOX who are more or less familiar with corporate gargantuans like call of duty or halo

this is more or less from personal experience but first person is much easier to get used to than third person because it requires only basic, intuitive hand-eye coordination; "good" third person gunfighting you have to force yourself to get used to
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Tsyolin is not online. Tsyolin
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30 Dec 2015 01:10 PM
to be honest if you want to play first person, play games that are actually good not roblox.

i like third person/bunny hopping because IMO to original and unique to roblox and is something different than generic fps crap.
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BenBonez is not online. BenBonez
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30 Dec 2015 01:14 PM
@Belmont

Yes and that presents an issue as well, you think that they would play clans that provide objectively WORSE FPS games to them when even the good FPS games already don't form any clans as the format doesn't work well for what we understand as clans.


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Jammintoad is online. Jammintoad
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30 Dec 2015 01:17 PM
whenever i play an fps since spending time on roblox i feel incredibly cramped. i cant tell whats going on as I can only see a limited FOV (which im not gonna turn up thank you). 3rd person also somewhat prevents getting shot in the back and a greater view of your environment. its just more fun overall imo
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Norskee is not online. Norskee
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30 Dec 2015 01:17 PM
this is probably really wrong, but from what I'm aware of, ROBLOX is the only game that actually provides unlocked third person.

it's what makes us unique lol
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Jammintoad is online. Jammintoad
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30 Dec 2015 01:19 PM
its also why roblox for console/mobile is really stupid and just part of the new "all-platform" gimmick that roblox seems to incessantly be following, even when the majority of the unique, fun, roblox games are really only playable on PC.
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Belmontlegend255 is not online. Belmontlegend255
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30 Dec 2015 01:19 PM
yeah no i'm not saying fps is better than third person (i like third person more) in any way
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BenBonez is not online. BenBonez
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30 Dec 2015 01:22 PM
@Norskee

You might as well put quote marks around that and add - BenBonez 2015
Since you got that from the threads yesterday where I posted this


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