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Re: The clan community needs Battle Network

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55Altair is not online. 55Altair
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26 Dec 2015 10:45 PM
I don't understand why some people bash on Battle Network. It seems to just be a vocal minority, but I don't understand how they can't see how good BN is going to be for clans. Even with Neo1035's flawed, initial version of Battle Network it created a huge surge of activity in all participating clans and on C&G. BenBonez has been in the community for longer than almost anyone on this forum, and is much better suited to leading an ambitious project like BN.

The community has taken certain steps (e.g. Gannex's War Clan group), but we need more. Many issues in clans stem from having no central authority to help control the chaos. War score disputes, admin abuse accusations, etc. Clans participating in Battle Network will only have to worry about winning.

Why try to discourage BenBonez? RCL went from being completely dead to HUGE under his ownership, and Battle Network went from being a dead concept to being near release. BN is a fair, unbiased, and safe way to fight your clan's wars. When BN gets started, it will translate its popularity into a huge flow of new players into the clan scene.

Battle Network is a solution to many of the current issues affecting clans, from unfair bases, to 'war terms' and other nonsense, to clans mostly drawing from the same pool of community members.
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Poorlawn is not online. Poorlawn
Joined: 30 May 2013
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26 Dec 2015 10:46 PM
yes
lets give an egomaniac more power

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Gentaurg is not online. Gentaurg
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26 Dec 2015 10:46 PM
Super
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Kazoko is not online. Kazoko
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26 Dec 2015 10:46 PM
Benbonez isn't a nice person if you don't know him.
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lukrio is not online. lukrio
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26 Dec 2015 10:46 PM
i vote altair for leader of new clan world
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55Altair is not online. 55Altair
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26 Dec 2015 10:47 PM
"lets give an egomaniac more power"

How is benbonez an egomaniac? He's a much more down-to-earth person than Neo1035 was, that's for sure.
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CIocksmith is not online. CIocksmith
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26 Dec 2015 10:47 PM
because
clans dont need a centralized thing
BN can be a thing you do for fun or w/e

but it'll never be official for clans we need our own places and tech and complete freeedom
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Lacrase is not online. Lacrase
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26 Dec 2015 10:47 PM
These stuff always fail..
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55Altair is not online. 55Altair
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26 Dec 2015 10:48 PM
"Benbonez isn't a nice person if you don't know him."

How is this even a logical point? You're basing your entire idea of who BenBonez is as a person without even knowing him. Do you just assume that what people like Richyard say is true?
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GODaZeD is not online. GODaZeD
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26 Dec 2015 10:48 PM
I don't understand how u have 25k kills with AK and only 3k with M4 (youre next most kills)

Drop it low and pick it up just like this
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KIeos is not online. KIeos
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26 Dec 2015 10:48 PM
bn sounds great
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entrant is not online. entrant
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26 Dec 2015 10:49 PM
C&G create these type of communities every month and fail every time.
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Vuar is not online. Vuar
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26 Dec 2015 10:50 PM
thanks for rec on getting steel series. it's amazing.
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55Altair is not online. 55Altair
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26 Dec 2015 10:50 PM
"clans dont need a centralized thing"

Almost every problem in the clan community stems from decentralization. No authority to blacklist exploiters, no arbitrator to help clans go through term disputes, no judge to determine who wins a raid, or even a war. How many wars between top 10 clans have there been this year where it went completely without a hitch? You can probably name less than 5, if any at all. How many wars have there been between top 10 clans that ended abruptly due to some sort of scandal, or some other product of disorganization? I can name a LOT and I'm not even active anymore.
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Kazoko is not online. Kazoko
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26 Dec 2015 10:50 PM

How is this even a logical point? You're basing your entire idea of who BenBonez is as a person without even knowing him. Do you just assume that what people like Richyard say is true?



How would you know if I knew him or not? Also it wasn't really meant as an argumentative point against BN, but okay.
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55Altair is not online. 55Altair
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26 Dec 2015 10:52 PM
"I don't understand how u have 25k kills with AK and only 3k with M4"

If you're looking at csgo-stats that's completely wrong for most stuff.

"These stuff always fail.."
"C&G create these type of communities every month and fail every time."

I bet the only previous attempt you can name is Neo1035's Battle Network, which did indeed fail, because Neo is incompetent and has the charisma/leadership abilities of a dead goldfish.
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Soraxious is not online. Soraxious
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26 Dec 2015 10:53 PM
entrant you come from sword clans stop talking
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55Altair is not online. 55Altair
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26 Dec 2015 10:53 PM
"How would you know if I knew him or not? Also it wasn't really meant as an argumentative point against BN, but okay."

Why would you write that post if you did know him? Your post is either pointless or stupid, good job.
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Poorlawn is not online. Poorlawn
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26 Dec 2015 10:54 PM
remember guys to always protect your butt buddies

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Kazoko is not online. Kazoko
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26 Dec 2015 10:55 PM
Why would you write that post if you did know him? Your post is either pointless or stupid, good job.



Man you're really ignorant I'm not even going to bother.
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elijahiscool is not online. elijahiscool
Joined: 06 Jul 2009
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26 Dec 2015 10:55 PM
Because BenBonez is an ass, that's why. If he was remotely a nice person or charismatic in any way I'm sure people would actually support him.
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Downdraft is not online. Downdraft
Joined: 06 Jun 2013
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26 Dec 2015 10:55 PM
i loved BN i dont know why its still not back
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55Altair is not online. 55Altair
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26 Dec 2015 10:56 PM
"remember guys to always protect your butt buddies"

Even if I hated Ben I would defend him because there are literally no cons to having Battle Network become a major influence in the community. You're just trying to bring down his generally beneficial project because you dislike him as a person.
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Harbynger is not online. Harbynger
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26 Dec 2015 10:56 PM
We could just do what I wanted to do and make Battle Network an entirely ROBLOX-independent system, being built as an entirely separate game.

The only problem with that is well, servers.
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Poorlawn is not online. Poorlawn
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26 Dec 2015 10:57 PM
you caught me
i barely know him and i highly dislike him!

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