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Re: Is the Patriarchy Even Real?

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HailMontgomery is not online. HailMontgomery
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23 Dec 2015 12:43 AM
I've never been subject to anything that feminists say the patriarchy does. They say patriarchy is when a man is congratulated on losing his flower, but women are shamed. There is nothing wrong with consentual marital relations. If there is any pre marital or extra marital relation, that should be frowned upon, but equally towards each gender. I've also never been shamed for crying like what the patriarchy apparently does. I'm a straight white male, my dad is, my mom is straight white female, both have never punished me or anything for crying.
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UntoTheBreach is not online. UntoTheBreach
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23 Dec 2015 12:44 AM
feminism has evolved into women leveraging the sexism card as an excuse to gain power over men

as if they didn't already have that power by the fact that they are women
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Bleerp is not online. Bleerp
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23 Dec 2015 12:45 AM
men are superior
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CrakTehRaven is not online. CrakTehRaven
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23 Dec 2015 12:48 AM
the patriarchy as a concept, that is, that men are a dominating body in society, is real, yes.

the patriarchy, as liberal feminists describe it, as being an omnipotent being responsible for the continuous inequalities between women is seperate - and up to debate by sociologists.

it's common misconception that feminism is all about the patriarchy, that's wrong. there are several types of feminism that exists 'at this moment'

major schools of thought right now include:

-black feminism (trials of white women are not the same as minorities)
-liberal feminism (the feminism that most people think is the majority - which believes in the patriarchy idea. fun fact, not the majority idea.)
-postmodern feminism (popular school of thought in scholarly articles right now, basically looks at gender in a non-binary way to address gender inequalities)

so yeah. there u go
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Poorlawn is not online. Poorlawn
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23 Dec 2015 12:49 AM
honestly for a second i thought you were talking about the orthodox patriarchy

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UntoTheBreach is not online. UntoTheBreach
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23 Dec 2015 12:50 AM
"honestly for a second i thought you were talking about the orthodox patriarchy"

we must restore the pentarchy
AND THEN THE EMPIRE.
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darman01 is not online. darman01
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23 Dec 2015 12:50 AM
"the patriarchy as a concept, that is, that men are a dominating body in society, is real, yes."

No
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Poorlawn is not online. Poorlawn
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23 Dec 2015 12:52 AM
@unto

ikr
thats how you know you play too much ck2 and eu4

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CrakTehRaven is not online. CrakTehRaven
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23 Dec 2015 12:52 AM
i don't think it's much of an argument that men hold more power in society at this moment? we can argue about how males often get the short end of the stick in child-custody laws/societal gender role expectations but in terms of political and economic power, i dont think the gender gap is up for debate.

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UntoTheBreach is not online. UntoTheBreach
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23 Dec 2015 12:52 AM
"No"

referring to overall leadership in human society, crak is correct that it's definitely male-dominated

however that's something that is not human-specific, it's present in a lot of animals, mainly because females have to spend more time having children and taking care of them while the males handle the other stuff.
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UntoTheBreach is not online. UntoTheBreach
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23 Dec 2015 12:54 AM
"thats how you know you play too much ck2 and eu4"

there is no such thing as too much paradox games
my most recent game in ck2 was zoroastrian so my dynasty's family tree ended up being more of a super-complex web
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CrakTehRaven is not online. CrakTehRaven
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23 Dec 2015 12:54 AM
'my most recent game in ck2 was zoroastrian so my dynasty's family tree ended up being more of a super-complex web'

i just play victoria ii...
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UntoTheBreach is not online. UntoTheBreach
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23 Dec 2015 12:55 AM
"i just play victoria ii..."

once you figure out the intricacies of ck2 it's literally the best game ever tbh
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Poorlawn is not online. Poorlawn
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23 Dec 2015 12:58 AM
oh my god
my last ck2 campaign
i seduced my same gender cousin (who i had already married to a slow inbred girl because yolo)
i sentenced some random person to death after already making him into a eunuch
i somehow became a republic
and then proceeded to get assassinated by my 16 year old lover (i was like 72)


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Poorlawn is not online. Poorlawn
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23 Dec 2015 12:59 AM
"once you figure out the intricacies of ck2 it's literally the best game ever tbh"

ck2 is basically incest and tyranny simulator
and its so much fun to just sit around and mess things up for everyone

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UntoTheBreach is not online. UntoTheBreach
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23 Dec 2015 01:00 AM
"(who i had already married to a slow inbred girl because yolo)"

why would you allow those genes to continue
execute the wench and marry the cousin off to your daughter or something
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Poorlawn is not online. Poorlawn
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23 Dec 2015 01:00 AM
because he turned down my first attempt to seduce him
but once i gave him that disgusting thing
he didnt say no again!

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HailMontgomery is not online. HailMontgomery
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23 Dec 2015 01:01 AM
Even the whole "men are the dominant force" thing doesn't apply to me. All the women in my family work and have worked.
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UntoTheBreach is not online. UntoTheBreach
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23 Dec 2015 01:01 AM
ok fair enough but make sure all their children die
is the "Target with assassin" option just a ck2+ thing or is it in the base game?
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Poorlawn is not online. Poorlawn
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23 Dec 2015 01:02 AM
ck2+ but you can still have people assassinated in base game

oh i forgot to mention
his wife is celibate af
shes a pious little inbred

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CrakTehRaven is not online. CrakTehRaven
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23 Dec 2015 01:02 AM
'Even the whole "men are the dominant force" thing doesn't apply to me. All the women in my family work and have worked.'


fair enough but keep in mind that we're talking about societal trends, not individual exceptions when we talk about gender inequality.
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Hythas is not online. Hythas
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23 Dec 2015 01:03 AM
crak putting that 40k student loans debt gender studies degree to work
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Ashwinn is not online. Ashwinn
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23 Dec 2015 01:04 AM
feminism in first world countries is almost as cancerous as black lives matter
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CrakTehRaven is not online. CrakTehRaven
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23 Dec 2015 01:04 AM
40k bio/bus degree... ;c

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UntoTheBreach is not online. UntoTheBreach
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23 Dec 2015 01:05 AM
ck2+ is brilliant though
i was stomping northern europe with a united britannia in 780 b/c i'm a cheating bastard
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