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Re: rat hrs talked about warring uaf before they invaded them

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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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19 Dec 2015 10:19 AM
they didnt simply unally them (unofficially at that) and raid them randomly, they talked about war

once they realized that they got owned, they backed off and played it off as an accident and that they were sorry

they are traitors to their allies.
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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19 Dec 2015 10:30 AM
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FriendlyBisquat is not online. FriendlyBisquat
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19 Dec 2015 10:32 AM
jimmies are rustled
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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19 Dec 2015 10:35 AM
not as much as rat's when fc started defending uaf :-)
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JoelBenton is not online. JoelBenton
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19 Dec 2015 10:35 AM
Here's what really happened:

Beastyboy1029 gave the high command false information as to why they should remove UAF, and the warfare department had fol practice raid them, without harmful intent.

However, yes, it was incredibly stupid to raid UAF at all rather than wait a while; however there were no talks of war.

RAT has an appellate system, where you can appeal high command votes if you feel they negatively affect the group. I wrote out a long appeal, and had over a hundred RAT members sign it. The executive high command (Dizzdazz4 - Ex Sic, TPHG - Ex leader, -Polymorphic - Current Leader, and Fabiao -Current SiC) all reviewed the appeal and eventually punished beasty for lying to the high command and misleading them, and re-allied UAF.

You can confirm this with RAT, UAF, or FC high ranks; all of whom were involved in supporting the appeal and helping the process go through.
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JoelBenton is not online. JoelBenton
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19 Dec 2015 10:36 AM
But no, we never talked of warring them; yes we did raid them, yes we did apologize to UAF, but we did not play it off as an accident.

I was not apart of making that decision in the HICOM so I cannot speak for them; but had they known the true story this would never have happened.
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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19 Dec 2015 10:39 AM
yup sure

dont worry, we have proof of the discussion of war. it'll come up in the future - who knows when :-D!

also it wasnt "friendly" raiding when uaf was still on your ally list and you never organized a raid - it was spontaneous

after rat failed their first raid, you then raided again up until midnight - id hardly call that "friendly"

if it was friendly, fc members wouldnt have been exiled from FoL for defending

and it was not fol only, it was rat
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3eh is not online. 3eh
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19 Dec 2015 10:43 AM
This is why I left FC when they allied RAT
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WisdomRider is not online. WisdomRider
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19 Dec 2015 10:47 AM
well


i didn't think that UAF would forgive RAT just like that, after having several justicars, marshals and some admirals[i think] flaming false when he made a thread in c&g about that pact signed back in 2013 or so
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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19 Dec 2015 10:49 AM
uaf should have unallied them but whatever
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WisdomRider is not online. WisdomRider
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19 Dec 2015 10:49 AM
not to mention the several claims that uaf can't stay allied to rat because of it's "current state" made by several officials as well

if i was in false's and jjakey's position i would cut down ties with rat on the spot
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Shinedown204 is not online. Shinedown204
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19 Dec 2015 11:00 AM
"i didn't think that UAF would forgive RAT just like that, after having several justicars, marshals and some admirals[i think] flaming false when he made a thread in c&g about that pact signed back in 2013 or so"

literally all marshals and justicars signed the appeal, and even a few admirals. the decision to unally uaf didn't represent the views of the group as a whole, over 100 rat members (including officers) signed the appeal.
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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19 Dec 2015 11:02 AM
those signatures hardly matter when rat discussed warring uaf and then invaded them

probably got scared to see fc defending uaf instead of helping rat, we actually fight with honor and dont betray our loyal allies unlike rat
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Lissitski is not online. Lissitski
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19 Dec 2015 11:03 AM
Interesting observations.

@Wisdom

As I've observed within FC and during my service to the Diplomatic Council, our allies have become deeply rooted into the fabric of our internal structure (after all, some of our HRs are RAT officials; UAF, some perhaps).

To cut ties would require a few weeks of purging and ensuring the prevention of any internal damage to our High Command and to the Lower Ranks, in my opinion. This may be just a virtual game but it's also a political game.
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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19 Dec 2015 11:04 AM
yeah but those rat hrs in our (fc's) high command only got there because of the new reforms and favoritism, they were never there before and fc functioned pretty much the same
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UrbanMidnightShades is not online. UrbanMidnightShades
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19 Dec 2015 11:06 AM
RAT lost all 4 servers that day.
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beastyboy1029 is not online. beastyboy1029
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19 Dec 2015 11:08 AM
bidoof is quick to point out my flaws and assume control after my removal and I find that quite interesting.

*Yeets Happily*
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Lissitski is not online. Lissitski
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19 Dec 2015 11:08 AM
Still better to be safe than sorry anyway.
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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19 Dec 2015 11:11 AM
@beasty

i find it interesting that poly/rat used you as a scapegoat when in fact rat hrs talked about warring uaf (which poly failed to mention when the incident occurred)
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Definitude is not online. Definitude
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19 Dec 2015 11:16 AM
This was clearly a potential war. That was prevented. UAF shouldn't even bother to re ally this party.
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ki113rxgunz is not online. ki113rxgunz
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19 Dec 2015 11:17 AM
really scummy move by rat that time lol
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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19 Dec 2015 11:18 AM
@ki11

Exiled from F.c, don't you EVER DiSRASpECtED them AGAIN.
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Pokemonpro21 is not online. Pokemonpro21
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19 Dec 2015 11:18 AM
That day was a joke.
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ki113rxgunz is not online. ki113rxgunz
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19 Dec 2015 11:18 AM
@NeDerManz


NooOOOOO Anyth1ng bvt Th@T!
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FriendlyBiscuit is not online. FriendlyBiscuit
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19 Dec 2015 11:19 AM
all i heard is that false info was spread, rat wanted to mess uaf up, rat found out the truth, uaf fc and rat talked and the problem was solved, and the person spreading info was demoted.

basically a convoluted game of wordplay.
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