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Re: FEAR/VS - TCC/Fleetcom isn't happening. Here's why:

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Tsyolin is not online. Tsyolin
Joined: 14 Aug 2012
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18 Dec 2015 04:44 PM
Couldn't make ends meet in negotiations.

We wanted an end to wallshooting and the gate to be fixed to working condition, but even with those two requests being relatively simple and not giving a heavy advantage to raiders, FEAR wasn't capable of doing so.

At this point FEAR's base is too broken to conduct fair raids at, while both Springvale and Varcia were updated to the letter and are significantly better in terms of fairness. Don't even get me started on Vulcan, either.

It could've been a cool and fun war, but the timing apparently wasn't too great for FEAR. There is a chance this could pick back up in the future, but I'm pulling Fleetcom out of it for the time being.


-bioodborne
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darthmaul360 is not online. darthmaul360
Joined: 18 Jul 2010
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18 Dec 2015 04:45 PM
gg

tcc and fleetcom are still better
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killer9094 is not online. killer9094
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18 Dec 2015 04:46 PM
unfortunately.


mean meme machine
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CIocksmith is not online. CIocksmith
Joined: 16 May 2012
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18 Dec 2015 04:48 PM
it is happening
fear is backing out due to problems
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Tsyolin is not online. Tsyolin
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18 Dec 2015 04:50 PM
We can see about starting over negotiations with a VS - TCC/Fleetcom war. But the part with FEAR in is out.

-bioodborne
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Sickthunderkiller is not online. Sickthunderkiller
Joined: 04 Jun 2012
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18 Dec 2015 04:51 PM
Fear needs cheap and pathetic tactics to win a defense apparently I guess
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CIocksmith is not online. CIocksmith
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18 Dec 2015 04:52 PM
VS originally wanted to bring TRA in
we can always make it VS/TRA
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steamsport is not online. steamsport
Joined: 26 Apr 2014
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18 Dec 2015 04:52 PM
Biood do you have skype? I want to discuss switching out FEAR for a different clan.
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georgek22 is not online. georgek22
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18 Dec 2015 04:52 PM
>Guns are being changed.
>You want us to have no access to the cave which is ridiculous.
>Once guns are changed there won't be wall-shooting.
>Stop being idiots.
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Tsyolin is not online. Tsyolin
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18 Dec 2015 04:53 PM
you'll have to talk to fleet about that, i've made enough decisions for him already

-bioodborne
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killer9094 is not online. killer9094
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18 Dec 2015 04:54 PM
imcm agreed to it and he approved the war terms post so fear was breaking agreed war terms by refusing to put it in:
">You want us to have no access to the cave which is ridiculous."
shadow cannot just do what he wants once the war terms are official he cannot just do that.

you have your own cave which nobody can enter.


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Beebart is not online. Beebart
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18 Dec 2015 04:55 PM
A shame.
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Tsyolin is not online. Tsyolin
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18 Dec 2015 04:55 PM
">Guns are being changed.
>You want us to have no access to the cave which is ridiculous.
>Once guns are changed there won't be wall-shooting.
>Stop being idiots."

Your head of war said he wasn't sure when the guns would be finished, and even then, if they'd be working properly. I even offered to have all forts stick with RCL and it didn't go through.

But seriously though, cut the crap. You act all so innocent now, but during raids you laugh at people who run right into your wall shooting lines and love every second of it. It's easy, it's cheap, and it's not something I'm going to make Fleetcom put up with for a whole war.


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georgek22 is not online. georgek22
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18 Dec 2015 04:56 PM
"shadow cannot just do what he wants once the war terms are official he cannot just do that."
he designs the base.
he's not stupid enough to let you nerf it that bad. have you even seen the updates made?

"you have your own cave which nobody can enter."
what?
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ImNotXudios is not online. ImNotXudios
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18 Dec 2015 04:58 PM
That's a shame.


Hmph.
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fleetcom is not online. fleetcom
Joined: 07 Jul 2009
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18 Dec 2015 04:58 PM
"he's not stupid enough to let you nerf it that bad. have you even seen the updates made?"

you mean the removal of a way directly into the base from your spawn, fear having access to gate, and the ability to just wallshoot the hell out of anyone.

yeah i agree :/
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Tsyolin is not online. Tsyolin
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18 Dec 2015 04:58 PM
"he's not stupid enough to let you nerf it that bad."

The sad part is that a nerfed A2R can't even compare with Springvale in terms of fairness.

-bioodborne
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steamsport is not online. steamsport
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18 Dec 2015 04:58 PM
how 2 get in contact with fleet
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Obsidimal is not online. Obsidimal
Joined: 06 Oct 2015
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18 Dec 2015 05:00 PM
Just wait for Azura tbh, or you can always use broken Cyro :DDD
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Sickthunderkiller is not online. Sickthunderkiller
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18 Dec 2015 05:00 PM
">Guns are being changed.
>You want us to have no access to the cave which is ridiculous.
>Once guns are changed there won't be wall-shooting.
>Stop being idiots."

1) Guns are totally being changed bro since in war chats FEAR's representatives complained about remove wallshooting
2) Well actually give raiders another way in than choking them at the same point because you guys can't use tactics. Defending a base should take skill and intelligence, not half a dead brain cell.
3) Look at #1. Just to add on, that 60% server rule is more bs than spoilers to the new Star Wars movie. 9v13, with FEAR spawning so much more closer is just sad.
4) Take a look at your HCOM please.


Still love you George!!
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killer9094 is not online. killer9094
Joined: 07 Mar 2011
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18 Dec 2015 05:00 PM
another way to combat your damn wallshooting is to just give us another entrance into the
terminal rather than forcing us to go through wallshooting 24/7.


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georgek22 is not online. georgek22
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18 Dec 2015 05:01 PM
"you mean the removal of a way directly into the base from your spawn, fear having access to gate, and the ability to just wallshoot the hell out of anyone."

every fort has its advantages.
the ability to wallshoot MAY be removed because we COULD be getting new guns.

have you sorted out your turrets aim yet?
its not the best.

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ImNotXudios is not online. ImNotXudios
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18 Dec 2015 05:02 PM
We were also gonna release a new base, but whatever.


Hmph.
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fleetcom is not online. fleetcom
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18 Dec 2015 05:02 PM
"Well actually give raiders another way in than choking them at the same point because you guys can't use tactics. "

or because there's invisible barriers on the gate, going into fear's spawn is bad, and thats the only way in which is either empty of cover to be used or a small 1 stud width obby.
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EdgeForDays is not online. EdgeForDays
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18 Dec 2015 05:02 PM
;-/
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