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Re: Fair or no [War]

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XxZONExXx is not online. XxZONExXx
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18 Dec 2015 01:33 PM
Alright, so Cobalt Nation is warring The Forsaken Nation Saturday. They've got a free model go cart and free model elephant in their fort. I wouldn't care if they were placed in equal places between the raiders and TFN, but of course. They aren't. :(

I timed all of these walks.

TFN:
35.40 seconds to get to the elephant from spawn
58.01 seconds to get to main gate from spawn
27.41 seconds to get to the go cart from the spawn
1 minutes 12.98 seconds to get to main gate from cliff (FROM FARTHEST SPAWN)

Raiders:
34.58 seconds to get to the go cart from spawn
46.34 seconds to get to the elephant from the spawn
1 minute 18.37 seconds to reach the gate from spawn
2 minutes 15.13+ seconds to reach the main gate from the cliff entrance.

>You can do the math. Essentially, the defenders have every advantage in the book. Spawn advantage (which I'm not going to ask them to change) as well as a pretty large gap to get to the elephant as well as a gap to get to the go cart (which "was designed for the raider's use." -TFN Leader)

All I'm asking him is to put the elephant in the middle of the raiders and defenders or be removed and put the go cart closer to the raider's spawn IF ITS MEANT FOR THE RAIDERS LMAO. OR you can delete it altogether which would be perf.

Opinion on the situation? Ty.

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Elitecyro is not online. Elitecyro
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18 Dec 2015 01:35 PM
Sounds like it should be more fair.
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oRebel is not online. oRebel
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18 Dec 2015 01:37 PM
why the hell is there an elephant and go cart in a fort...
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Xellious is not online. Xellious
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18 Dec 2015 01:38 PM
Unfair. Hail CN.
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XxZONExXx is not online. XxZONExXx
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18 Dec 2015 01:39 PM
@o, ikr. But I'm just asking it to be placed in the middle or remove it.
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121bytes is not online. 121bytes
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18 Dec 2015 01:41 PM
we should raid on a 300x300 baseplate w/ equally placed spawns on either side and a flag at 0,1,0 also unclopylocked so one side cant cheat. :D

Pros> Lag free(if ur pc isnt a potato), 100% fair, also no cheatin'
Cons> Looks like zone could make it :/

Support 300x300 baseplate 2k15!


yudodis
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DonutsAreSoggy is not online. DonutsAreSoggy
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18 Dec 2015 01:41 PM
why isnt there an elephant and go cart in all forts?
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XxZONExXx is not online. XxZONExXx
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18 Dec 2015 01:41 PM
I wouldn't have resorted to using C&G if their leader would have at least tried to compromise a little bit. Instead, this is what was written: "use ur mountain pass.
the kart and elephant is staying where they are they provide no great advantage as they can be taken easily."

AS WELL AS

"I put the mario kart weeks ago before any talk of war and the spawn advantage is no different to yours if you use the mountain pass also with the elephant it's not an advantage because tfn will soon lose it and as its TFN's fort ofc we get to have our mascot ;p"

>But who cares if it's "easy to take." They'll have an immediate advantage.
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Andrewj2020 is not online. Andrewj2020
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18 Dec 2015 01:45 PM
sounds fair to me
(sarcasm)
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ropuk is not online. ropuk
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18 Dec 2015 01:53 PM
why is there an elephant

why isn't there a flamingo
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XxZONExXx is not online. XxZONExXx
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18 Dec 2015 01:55 PM
tbh, i'd prefer if there was a giraffe and it could swing its head to kill you like in those giraffe fighting videos.
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OminousStorm is not online. OminousStorm
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18 Dec 2015 01:56 PM
in our fort, should give us a tp to term then, unless these are made more fair.
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ropuk is not online. ropuk
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18 Dec 2015 01:56 PM
a giraffe does sound interesting

how about a rhino
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XxZONExXx is not online. XxZONExXx
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18 Dec 2015 02:01 PM
HIPPPPOOOOOOO
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ropuk is not online. ropuk
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18 Dec 2015 02:03 PM
yessss

and btw this is unfair lol
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XxZONExXx is not online. XxZONExXx
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18 Dec 2015 02:04 PM
Ik ropok
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ColtonMJack is not online. ColtonMJack
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18 Dec 2015 02:07 PM
War isn't fair.
I've always thought it was best for one team to have an advantage over something whereas the other has an advantage over something else.


i.e.
defenders have weaker weapons but are closer to the objective
raiders have stronger weapons and are shielded in a forest but are farther from the objective.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAdQKwbm0p4
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121bytes is not online. 121bytes
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18 Dec 2015 02:09 PM
give raiders http://www.roblox.com/Radiant-Seahorse-item?id=271017937 and we'll call it fair



yudodis
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HopelessSoul is not online. HopelessSoul
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18 Dec 2015 02:11 PM
All I'm going to say is that your warring a clan whom copied the JC's Supreme Commander's era uniform

That alone is pathetic.

dotdotdot
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XxZONExXx is not online. XxZONExXx
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18 Dec 2015 02:36 PM
Why not make it fair altogether to test both group's skill? :D
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XxZONExXx is not online. XxZONExXx
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18 Dec 2015 02:39 PM
b1
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WeaponDataBase is not online. WeaponDataBase
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18 Dec 2015 02:42 PM
or you could just raid and not be scared
this is why the clan world is dying, people expect forts to be 100% fair for some reason
JUST RAID GOD WHO CARES


IM PIST LOL IM SO PIST ROFL
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XxZONExXx is not online. XxZONExXx
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18 Dec 2015 03:00 PM
"this is why the clan world is dying, people expect forts to be 100% fair for some reason"

>I'm just asking to move the elephant/go cart and make it fair. IF YOU READ, you'd see that the fort already isn't fair and I'm not asking him to change anything about that. Also, why would I be afraid of raiding if I was the one who declared war in the first place?

kthxbye
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TheOriginalElmerz is not online. TheOriginalElmerz
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18 Dec 2015 03:17 PM
Support

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ropuk is not online. ropuk
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19 Dec 2015 07:48 AM
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