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Re: New System for Swords.

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Fasds is online. Fasds
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15 Dec 2015 07:57 AM
I browsed the forums yesterday and saw an idea that I wanted to build on (credit to steamsport). Basically, the idea was to revamp the system for swords for the better. The way this would be done was by introducing a stamina system along with different weapon choices. The stamina system would work in a way that stamina will be drained for doing different actions such as dodging by jumping, possibly heavy attacks, and maybe even sprinting. This would require people to keep an eye out for their stamina, and use it well. It would also introduce more mechanical skill, and make SF'ing seem less luck-based and more skill-based. Now if you also introduced new weapons, that could make it a possibility to specialize in certain weapons. These weapons would of course be available to everyone from the start, as locking certain weapons will just add tedious grinding which is not required.

I want to hear if anyone else has any suggestions for a system like this, and wanted to know if this sounded good?


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steamsport is not online. steamsport
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15 Dec 2015 08:01 AM
Heh I like it cuss I suggested it heh
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Elitecyro is not online. Elitecyro
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15 Dec 2015 09:52 AM
The issue is that you would have to know how to do all these things, or hire someone else to. After that you would have to convince the sword fighting community that your sword clan is actually a sword clan. People don't like change either so you would have to find probably more new bags then veteran sword fighters. Also running with swords seems a little broken.

Those are my thoughts
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pwner195 is not online. pwner195
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15 Dec 2015 09:58 AM
you have to be careful with how you change it

for example, changing the sword animation is a huge no-no
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Broilers is not online. Broilers
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15 Dec 2015 10:00 AM
Great idea, but personally I hate it.
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steamsport is not online. steamsport
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15 Dec 2015 10:40 AM
Then he doesn't need veterans if they are going to Be sitting on their butts saying
Don't change it
No that is bad
Without trying anything.
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alliancer is not online. alliancer
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15 Dec 2015 10:44 AM
We're not complaining about change, we're complaining that it's a fix to a problem that doesn't exist.

Swords are a perfect system, new or old animations. The only reason you would need to push a new system is if you think it would help with recruitment or activity, which it wouldn't - it would more likely push your current members away and make it more difficult to find new members, knowing that they now have to learn not only how to SF, but how to manage stamina among other things.

nothing is broke here, don't bother fixing it
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declamation is not online. declamation
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15 Dec 2015 11:06 AM
I think it'd be a good idea to have different types of swords which have you with certain speed/damage/defense, that way you can specialize in skill of whatever you want and it can be more diverse, but less "stamina" and more just like 16-20 walkspeed type of thing

I like your idea though
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declamation is not online. declamation
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15 Dec 2015 11:07 AM
@steam your right we complain about the same thing but don't do anything about it and those who do, are flamed for their idea
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Elitecyro is not online. Elitecyro
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15 Dec 2015 11:08 AM
Dec, remember Noble Blade
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steamsport is not online. steamsport
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15 Dec 2015 11:08 AM
"We're not complaining about change, we're complaining that it's a fix to a problem that doesn't exist."
Your complaining about change I assure you that there is a difference

"Swords are a perfect system,"
Yeah because arguing about force ties, after deaths and reaching is cool

"new or old animations."
Look at the diversity in sword clans there is so much
"The only reason you would need to push a new system"
It's not pushed its a way to help form new area of melee clans

"is if you think it would help with recruitment or activity"
Or just to make something different then force tying

"which it wouldn't"
Your judging it before it has even been actively used so no you don't know the results at all

-" it would more likely push your current members away and make it more difficult to find new members"
I doubt it, ever played dark souls? It's really simple to fight with. It would be also something new

, "knowing that they now have to learn not only how to SF, but how to manage stamina among other things."
It's really not that difficult but there doesn't have to be a stamina system in the first place.

"nothing is broke here, don't bother fixing it"
Well you see
A lack of a good community to run around in
Everyone dislikes sword clans for the lack of innovations and sitting on your butt tactics and making a different color scheme and a long walk base to force tie with a 1500 terminal and nothing very appealing
Then I look at GoT or ancient era clans. They have animation different weapons and everything 50 person events.
Please tell me more how the system you choose to agree with is not broken
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GianniKun is not online. GianniKun
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15 Dec 2015 11:09 AM
Thats stupid. Just make one sword using parts(welds/cframe(dont use vector3))
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declamation is not online. declamation
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15 Dec 2015 11:09 AM
Ofcourse I remember NB
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Neophere is online. Neophere
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15 Dec 2015 11:12 AM
i'd give it a try
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SLPM is not online. SLPM
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15 Dec 2015 11:25 AM
People who think luck is involved in sword fighting are to arrogant to realize their opponents are also unpredictable human beings capable of aiming their swords.
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steamsport is not online. steamsport
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15 Dec 2015 11:54 AM
If that's directed at me I never said it was based on luck
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diuto717 is not online. diuto717
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15 Dec 2015 11:56 AM
that's pretty cool, I think roblox did that for one of their swords but it didn't work out
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alliancer is not online. alliancer
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15 Dec 2015 12:07 PM
Not every base in ROBLOX is forced to be a "different color scheme and a long walk base to force tie with a 1500 terminal". That sounds like a direct call out to some base you probably disliked.

GoT and ancient era clans are based on ROLEPLAY instead of killing eachother, that's why they are more successful than what clans you take part in.

"Please tell me more how the system you choose to agree with is not broken"
It's worked fine for 6 years. The only reason that activity within sword clans is dropping is because ALL of roblox war-clans' activity is dropping.
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Danonymous is not online. Danonymous
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15 Dec 2015 12:12 PM
I'm happy with the way the current swords are, no need to change it more; more so that I wouldn't even be able to get a 10 kd difference anymore.


I got screamed at for wearing my black sports snood into my science exam because they thought I stuffed answers into it.
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Luminated is not online. Luminated
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15 Dec 2015 12:14 PM
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steamsport is not online. steamsport
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15 Dec 2015 12:14 PM
It wasn't and every sword clan is legitimately the same
Different color scheme
Different name
Linked sword
New or old animations
They are dull and uninteresting

Got has wars it's not pure role play do some research
I beg to differ on ancient clans since I know several that aren't "pure roleplay"
You are thinking of spqr who still in fact have more people interested in it then the sword community


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steamsport is not online. steamsport
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15 Dec 2015 12:16 PM
that's pretty cool, I think roblox did that for one of their swords but it didn't work out

It changed the animations only and it was still only a linked sword

The linked sword is the equivalent of using a carbine
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alliancer is not online. alliancer
Joined: 18 Mar 2013
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15 Dec 2015 12:34 PM
I don't understand how they can all be the legitimate "same" but have all of those differences you named.

If there is some sort of solution for sword clans, it's not this, sorry
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steamsport is not online. steamsport
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15 Dec 2015 01:03 PM
Really just done. Because those differences are minimum.

When they could easily introduce different melee style weapons and make the clan a lot different

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steamsport is not online. steamsport
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15 Dec 2015 01:05 PM
Solution
Add in custom melee weapons and animations
Don't stick to your norms
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