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| 13 Dec 2015 01:19 PM |
Since you seem to have such a high regard for winning at FW2 by using a SF member to make the server official then having them leave, I guess we can talk about SF! -------------------------------------------------------------- FC/SF War (Late 2013):
- SF declared war on FC. FC, being a clan of morals and honor, accepts the war. - War starts and SF's base is "broken" (Yes they warred us with a broken base, which I doubt was an accident). Raiders were spawning on the cliff (This is where the spawn was). Even though FC told the SF admins at our initial raids that we spawned there, they begin to kick/ban FC members, repeatedly AA'ing. - War is put on a cease fire until SF can fix their base (Which shouldn't have taken as long as it did). Once their base is finally fixed, their term breaks as we begin raiding again (Again, I doubt this was an accident. I'm no expert builder/scripter, but I'm not sure how their terminal broke when all they had to do was fix the spawns). - War is put on another cease fire until its fixed. Once the war continues, FC quickly destroys SF (I would use a friendlier word but SF has been really annoying to FC ever since then, so I'll put it how it was).
Cheating during the war by SF (Check album below these to see extra stuff):
- SF had an aimbot in the base (Check here for proof, refer to page 2 for Paul's name in the script: http://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=154295898) - The multiple parts of their fort being broken (No proof of that however its really coincidental that they warred us with a broken base and then a part of their base broke with a fix, which was working fine before) - SF had a script which gave free snipers to some of their members - SF changed the price of the sniper VIP without the permission of FC (I believe the price was 10,000 Robux for the gamepass) - Keep in mind that we had to pay for these 1 shot KO snipers while their members got it for free and from past/cheaper gamepasses - Multiple AA cases - InstantImpact (SF member) resorted to sword glitching because he couldn't get past our defenses fairly - SF admin (Covertus) told the SF to abandon our server to not make it official
- Here is an album of some of the stuff they pulled during the war: a/TiDLE -------------------------------------------------------------- After FC destroyed SF, they went quiet for a bit. However, as time went on, it was apparent that they still held a grudge over us for the war. They began to raid us constantly (And lost). -------------------------------------------------------------- FC/SF War (Don't have a date, however this is their 2nd declaration of war against FC):
- FC/SF enter negotiations and it appears that another war may occur. - After negotiations are agreed upon, SF raids the updated FW2. Paul became mistaken about what he negotiated and ended up backing out of the war due to pink barrels being at the base (Even though he agreed that everything above pink would be removed and that pink would remain)
SF using unfair tactics (Keep in mind this was still during negotiations):
- Paul asked Frozen2Spooks if he wanted to raid, Frozen agreed. FC had about 13 people patrolling. Frozen placed us to the rally place and shouted for a rally, where we began to gain enough members to raid. - As we were rallying, Paul launched SF to FW2, which was now defenseless. His use of unfair tactics was simply "scumbaggish," and it was pathetic to see that he had to pull such low tactics just to raid (And still lost). -------------------------------------------------------------- SF's Stronghold base unfariness (Back when they originally used this I had a lot more information, this is just going off of memory. An example of this would the time from SF spawn to term and the Raider spawn to term, I believe it was somewhere near x2 time for Raiders):
- Offered 6 entrances into the base (Past first gate) - This allows for SF to flank very easily, forces the Raiders to separate a lot - High defender count in a small server (8 SF in an 18 or 20 player server I want to say, might be mixing it up with Stone Bridge. If these numbers aren't exact, keep in mind that it was still a high defender count in a small server) - Extremely unfair spawns - SF spawned a lot closer and had their own entrance between the cliffs - After taking 1 of the 6 entrances into the base, they can choose from 5 entrances into the term building (Again, allows for SF to flank very easily and forces the Raiders to separate a lot) - Keep in mind that Raiders really don't have that many people compared to SF (Not a good ratio of defenders to raiders), meaning its hard to cover all these entrances - High damage guns/0 spread/hire fire rate - When the server became official and everyone was respawned, SF would be able to get ontop of the gate before we could get to our entrance. They are able to easily pick off our attackers - The high damage/0 spread/high fire rate also gives SF the advantage when compared to the spawns. When they kill someone, they could raid the terminal 2-3 times before that person could even get back to their spot. - High terminal timer (20 minutes, might be 25)
Accounts of cheating:
- Multiple clans (Even VAK) had spoke of the fishiness of the base. Most of these complaints were towards certain SF members not dying as they should (VOID, I believe ISO, was even given admin and had to keep healthing all to 100 to make sure this didn't occur during one raid) - I personally shot Paul (Who was sitting ontop of the large rock across the Raider spawn as if he was in Lion King) 28 times before he killed me. I then respawned and continued to shoot him for another 17 times, and he still didn't die. I forget the exact stats of damage and such, however it was clear that the "lag" that some SF members mentioned would not have been able to take that much damage -------------------------------------------------------------- Again SF went quite a bit after the 2nd war declaration. As time went on, their grudge towards FC became apparent once again. They began to raid FW2 a lot (Once again), with little success. -------------------------------------------------------------- FC/SF War (This was at the time that SF switched to their Stone Bridge fort, very unfair):
- SF declared war on FC for a 3rd time. They are using an extremely unfair fort (More unfair than their stronghold, I'll get into the specifics of this fort after the details of these negotiations). - SF says the base was made for VOID, RAA (Ally of SF) then declares war on VOID while VOID's active fort was Labs (RAA didn't even know what fort they declared war on, lol) - It was clear that SF didn't really want to war FC, but they wanted to get to VOID instead (Who was an ally of FC) - 2v2 negotiations began and SF/RAA were very difficult to work with. FC attempted to branch off and do a 1v1 war with RAA (Who was talking smack about FC previously), however Sas pretty much refused to negotiate. I thought we were getting somewhere after about 2 hours of talk, however once we got somewhere he came out with more demands) - FC then talks with SF separately about a 1v1 war (Keep in mind that the 2v2 wasn't really working). SF attempted to pull a VAK and negotiate things out of our pretty fair fort with some of their really unfair things, however they neglected the fact that even without those things the base was still really unfair) - Both parties disperse and no war occurs (SF has now backed out for a 2nd time) -------------------------------------------------------------- SF's Stone Bridge base unfairness (Keep in mind, like their Stronghold, I don't have the specifics as I'm doing this off of memory. They are somewhere in the forums as FC/SF argued a lot):
- Extremely unfair spawn distances (I believe x3 distance for Raiders) - Only one entrance into their part of the base (Was across a very long bridge with 0 cover. SF conveniently had cover at the end of it to kill us from across the bridge) - High damage/0 spread/high fire rate guns which allowed SF to mow us down from their end of the bridge (Keep in mind there was no cover). This is similar to Stronghold, and if they kill a Raider defending the term it allows them to raid 2-3 more times before that Raider can get back) - 7 entrances into the term (Might be 8) - Allows for SF to easily flank - High defender count with a smaller server size with a 2 Commando rule (This was unnecessary considering they were an exclusive power clan and didn't need to worry about alts. They argued that FC didn't need it, however there were already instances from past SF raiding where they used alts to make the server official) - High term timer with a bomb system (Keep in mind you had to get the bomb across that very long bridge) - Probably some other stuff I'm forgetting but oh well -------------------------------------------------------------- Now so far all I've talked about is FC/SF, so lets get into some other stuff. -------------------------------------------------------------- SF/SC war:
- SF used a base built by Dignatio (Main leader of the clan that beat them, FC). This base was too fair for SF, so they made changes to it, including access to the cliffs for SF and a teleporter above their spawn which brought them across the map (Which no one knew about, including SC) - SF gave themselves access to the cliffs while the Raiders could not get up. Match this cliff access with high damage/0 spread/high fire rate guns and it's very unfair for the Raiders, especially since a lot of the cover at term is used for people coming towards the terminal normally, not from people sitting behind them on the cliffs -------------------------------------------------------------- TL;DR = SF has been a clan known for cheating and using unfair tactics. Every time they come back I kind of want to give them a chance (Not joining but reputation wise), however they always seem to do something else to annoy me and other FC members. They haven't entered one war with a fair base and rely on unfair tactics/their base to win.
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| 13 Dec 2015 01:20 PM |
| By the way if you really want SF, I could go get the stats/specifics of your bases from previous threads, etc. |
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| 13 Dec 2015 01:20 PM |
Post On Your Main Ned! Coward????
Natalie #1 |
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| 13 Dec 2015 01:25 PM |
why would i care about the past SF i wasn't in.....
THIS is the 4th time i told you this Ned
I DO NOT CARE ABOUT ANYTHING THAT HAPPENED WITH SF IN THE PAST
GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL
thank you
also i know that sf used to play cheap i was in SC so yeah :-) |
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| 13 Dec 2015 01:27 PM |
no rebuttal because there isnt one
9-0. |
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| 13 Dec 2015 01:28 PM |
| paul hi i luv u im ur biggest fan1111 (jk im better dan u and meds at me prime hahahahaha jk i suk dik) |
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| 13 Dec 2015 01:28 PM |
9-0 roasteddd
Yeah, Guess you could say I'm quite the savage |
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| 13 Dec 2015 01:29 PM |
all of this just because he is butt hurt his clan lost at FW II
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| 13 Dec 2015 01:29 PM |
| Yea but Ned you forget da F.c only win cuz of their bows SF #1 \:D/ |
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| 13 Dec 2015 01:29 PM |
| actually i wasnt going to make this until you continued to talk about sf's apparent "victory" at fw2 the other day but ok |
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| 13 Dec 2015 01:29 PM |
"12-13-2015 11:26 AM SF #1"
XD 9-0, beat by wij, sc(2/3), tsl, void even #s XDD |
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| 13 Dec 2015 01:30 PM |
| i think its funny because you think the past SF is going to affect anything thats happening in the future |
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| 13 Dec 2015 01:30 PM |
This thread is fullofmeaning to be honest!
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| 13 Dec 2015 01:31 PM |
lmao
[9:43:16 PM] XxmohXy -: I really don't need your permission |
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| 13 Dec 2015 01:32 PM |
considering the current sf is using a past base which is unfair (refer to stronghold unfairness part) and a base that has various accounts of cheating (refer to cheating part of base)
or the fact that sf has already resorted back to using cheap tactics |
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| 13 Dec 2015 01:32 PM |
Need a shorter tl;dr
!1!1!1!1!! |
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| 13 Dec 2015 01:33 PM |
| never forget when random cngers defender against SF at their own base and won vs aks and instant made an excuse saying his whole team was afk then they closed the server XD |
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| 13 Dec 2015 01:34 PM |
| true sf talked about how stone bridge was fair and about how they could win there then lost to random c&grs that didnt even know the base LOL!!!! >;33333 |
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| 13 Dec 2015 01:36 PM |
| now this is what proof should look like |
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| 13 Dec 2015 01:36 PM |
| well they lost at stone bridge + the other one too lol |
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| 13 Dec 2015 01:38 PM |
dont forget the tgi and sf war!
hes just an annoying edgy meme spammer - jesuschristofvoid |
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