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ClassicHats is not online. ClassicHats
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05 Dec 2015 09:30 PM
Who's supporting free education?

Oh yeah, that middle class that the free education is going to put you in.

Congrats on the free taxes, It is called a community college. Try it sometime.
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05 Dec 2015 09:31 PM
vote trump to get filthy mexicans like these out of our cities


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ClassicHats is not online. ClassicHats
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05 Dec 2015 09:55 PM
"vote trump to get filthy mexicans like these out of our cities


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No. Trump is also an idiot. lol
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spiffy5c is not online. spiffy5c
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05 Dec 2015 09:58 PM
classic mexican answer


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ClassicHats is not online. ClassicHats
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06 Dec 2015 08:52 PM
Im not a mexican
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MuPwner is not online. MuPwner
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06 Dec 2015 08:53 PM
explain what you mean by free education will put you in the middle class


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06 Dec 2015 08:56 PM

pretty sure there's rich people in >insert name of any other developed country in the world where most colleges are free<

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MuPwner is not online. MuPwner
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06 Dec 2015 08:59 PM
And even so, free education doesn't make one poorer than the next...


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06 Dec 2015 09:11 PM
"pretty sure there's rich people in >insert name of any other developed country in the world where most colleges are free<


Those countries tax the rich, and believe in small and medium business. In the U.S, we have a problem with congress with this, with republicans.


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12-06-2015 06:59 PM
And even so, free education doesn't make one poorer than the next...


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Yes it does as there are no jobs to place those people with this new education in. IN conclusion, to kill two birds with one stone, create competition to drive down costs.
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ClassicHats is not online. ClassicHats
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06 Dec 2015 09:12 PM
In result of no jobs for that education, people will continue to fall out of the middle class, as whether you have education, you need a job for that education that puts you in the middle class. The education is only the qwualification. You also fail to ask why we need such a high qualification and why the cost is so high. The reason is lack of competition in the job market, in result, less jobs, in result, more competition for those jobs.
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06 Dec 2015 09:15 PM
More small and medium business's = more jobs, more competition. more jobs = less poverty. Competition = lower prices, cheaper college since not as high demand for college degrees to meet the income of when we had less competition for jobs, higher working conditions. In conclusion, employers work for the people and you.
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06 Dec 2015 09:15 PM
But that's why we need to make more jobs, and you do make a good point. However, if one cannot simply afford to go to college then what then? Is one not supposed to make enough money for his family because he could not get a decent-paying job due to his lack of education all due to college expenses?


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TheFreshCrew is not online. TheFreshCrew
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06 Dec 2015 09:16 PM
Im voting for trump
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WarlordRising is not online. WarlordRising
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06 Dec 2015 09:17 PM
I will also vote for Donald Trump
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ClassicHats is not online. ClassicHats
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06 Dec 2015 09:20 PM
"However, if one cannot simply afford to go to college then what then? Is one not supposed to make enough money for his family because he could not get a decent-paying job due to his lack of education all due to college expenses?"


You are looking at the effect, not the cause, in order to change the effect, you have ot change the cause. The cause of the lack of jobs to feed your families is the lack of business's. Our taxes that attach to citizens are usually the small and medium business's and the middle class. While this is true, the minority of individuals take most of the wealth in the country, and large corporations do tax evasion. In result, there is more money for corporations, and not the average guy on the block. In result, large corporations are powerful and are able to crush smaller business's. This destroys jobs. So to stop this, to supply jobs, we must invest in our small and medium business's. How do you pay for college? you work for it, like we used to. Cant afford it? That is caused by the lack of jobs driving demand for higher college degrees.
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ShankZilla is not online. ShankZilla
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06 Dec 2015 09:21 PM
Most of you cannot vote, at least trump could help us get out of debt.
That one fact is true.

I do not support trump in any way tho.
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06 Dec 2015 09:22 PM
And no donald is worse. The truth of the matter is a president only has presidential jurisdiction. What do you think the president is going to do? He cant change laws. He can only approve them. He cant even initiate them, this is called seperation of powers. If you do not know much about congress, or the government, how can you vote effiently. The most important key to a democracy is the education. Our education is currently ranked 23rd in the world. 70% of americans do not even know where the pacific ocean is.
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06 Dec 2015 09:24 PM
A princeton study found that Public opinion has an effect on public policy .003% of the time. Was taken over 20 years. That is a long study, and is accurate as the source is extremely valued. The truth is, we are not a democracy anymore. A democracy means people vote on there laws indirectly or directly. We are a representative democracy. as we vote for our leaders.
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06 Dec 2015 09:25 PM
I doubt Trump could get us out of debt.
He is not a politician, he is a business man, I feel he should stick to that.

Bill Clinton was able to get us out of debt for his time in office, and he was a good President, in my opinion.
And the cause of people not able to get good decent paying jobs isn't that their are not ENOUGH jobs, it is because the lack of education. Can a doctor be someone without a medical degree? No. And maybe someone wants to pursue a medical career, but he cannot afford the cost of education. What is he supposed to do?


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06 Dec 2015 09:27 PM
What we need to do is stop pretending bernie standers or trump is the answer. People are the answer. People are what makes laws and policies functional. And your silence, allows tyranny. Your government taps over 1 billion emails every year, something considered a conspiracy 10 years ago where you would be called crazy.. now very validated. Donald trump is part of the problem as a rich individual and hillary clinton is backed by the very banks that resulted in the financial crisis in 2008.. talk about lobbyists. Oh and your monetary system? Controlled by a few individuals, transfered it to a debt-influenced currency where it is no longer backed by gold or a commodity. It is not possible to exchagne gold for dollars or inverse anymore. So in reality, you are all working for paper. Congrats, silence is great.
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MuPwner is not online. MuPwner
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06 Dec 2015 09:27 PM
Well don't forget the Electoral College, I never really got that.


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06 Dec 2015 09:27 PM
@Shank

except trump is worth 4 bil and the debt is 16 TRILLION
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MuPwner is not online. MuPwner
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06 Dec 2015 09:29 PM
Well people and some form of Government are the answer. Don't forget when the Founding Fathers founded America, their was no leader, and they soon learned they needed to fix that.



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06 Dec 2015 09:30 PM
"I doubt Trump could get us out of debt.
He is not a politician, he is a business man, I feel he should stick to that.

Bill Clinton was able to get us out of debt for his time in office, and he was a good President, in my opinion.
And the cause of people not able to get good decent paying jobs isn't that their are not ENOUGH jobs, it is because the lack of education. Can a doctor be someone without a medical degree? No. And maybe someone wants to pursue a medical career, but he cannot afford the cost of education. What is he supposed to do?


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A president does not get you out of debt, but he can approve laws that congress votes on... which has nothing to do with him. SO once again, a president can not create laws or policies. In the U.K they can which causes massive corruption.

No. Lol. There is not enough jobs. Sorry to brake that to you. There are jobs. But not middle class jobs. In order to be in the middle class, you need a job that brings you close to the median average wage of 40-50k. In result, as our middle class has been shrinking because of the LACK of jobs... people are brought closer to the minimum wage. IN result, you need to realize how things from. Many college graduates, and I mean MANY.. are currently coming out of college living with there parents because they can not find a job. There are NO jobs. or veryy little in sparity. There is a ration. Any economist will tell you that to drive education costs down, you drive the competition for jobs down..
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ClassicHats is not online. ClassicHats
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06 Dec 2015 09:32 PM
""Well people and some form of Government are the answer. Don't forget when the Founding Fathers founded America, their was no leader, and they soon learned they needed to fix that.



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Our founding fathers believed in democracy, bound by a republic. As this is true, they understood the need of sepration of power. They did not like government, they liked government small and seperate. They wanted a government that only intervened when needed. Our founding fathers were what we call, Libertarians. So no, they understood the need of some government, but not a big government.
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