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Re: female representation in games is legit sad

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Propellerhead4 is not online. Propellerhead4
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25 Nov 2015 10:18 PM
no i'm not a safety space intersectional feminists with a gender studies degree i just recognize the painfully obvious and abysmal gender inequality in games. female armor constantly gets more revealing as you level up the "damsel in distress" trope is 20 or so years old now and still running strong (how many mario games have been released again?) and people wonder why women are repulsed by this culture. how sad. if you want to baselessly call me out as a troll go ahead i'll be sure to ignore you ;)
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Bigtiop26 is not online. Bigtiop26
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25 Nov 2015 10:40 PM
I'm having very conflicted feelings with this.

On the one hand, you said you aren't a safe space radfem

on the other hand, you just said their stuff.

guys we better run the universe is about to collapse from a paradox
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Propellerhead4 is not online. Propellerhead4
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25 Nov 2015 10:49 PM
this is a serious discussion fyi
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Bigtiop26 is not online. Bigtiop26
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25 Nov 2015 11:06 PM
Not all recent Mario games are rescuing princesses, they're also becoming playable.

And I'm totally fine with objectification, the only problem I have with it is not enough dudes.
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Propellerhead4 is not online. Propellerhead4
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25 Nov 2015 11:13 PM
nobody should be "objectified." subjects act on things, objects are "acted upon." don't encourage it.
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Bigtiop26 is not online. Bigtiop26
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25 Nov 2015 11:14 PM
I disagree, and will continue to encourage it.

As long as it isn't discriminating any particular gender, it's fine imo.
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CatBoy1235 is not online. CatBoy1235
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25 Nov 2015 11:24 PM
personally I don't let any of it get to me because it's just a video game
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nachosandchez is not online. nachosandchez
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25 Nov 2015 11:25 PM
RS:S

When in doubt,divide by zero.
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LuigiMarioDie is not online. LuigiMarioDie
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25 Nov 2015 11:36 PM
chump
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ShinyHunterZ is not online. ShinyHunterZ
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26 Nov 2015 12:09 AM
i dont know, samus kicks ass in smash.



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GoBackToRedditDotCom is not online. GoBackToRedditDotCom
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26 Nov 2015 01:56 AM
"female armor constantly gets more revealing"

Have you seen how women dress these days? Even the most revealing chainmail bikinis or whatever are more covering.

Women are constantly used as damsels in distress because women are physically and mentally weaker than men when it comes to conflict, men are soldiers and women are not. So if you're going to be telling a story of one person trying to rescue somebody it'll almost always be a man rescuing a woman.



Plus women are a minority of gamers, a very small group, why would companies try and sell to the minority rather than the majority which are men?


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StarshipPwnzers is not online. StarshipPwnzers
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26 Nov 2015 02:10 AM
"Women are constantly used as damsels in distress because women are physically and mentally weaker than men when it comes to conflict, men are soldiers and women are not. "


Explains why female snipers were just as effective as the male ones on the Russian front in WW2, no?
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chopbowl is not online. chopbowl
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26 Nov 2015 02:59 AM
personally I don't let any of it get to me because it's just a video game [x2]

nice bait btw,
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uberpwner123 is not online. uberpwner123
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26 Nov 2015 06:14 AM
@GoBack

You'd actually be surprised if you were to look at the ratio of female gamers to male gamers is.

{+over 2.2k posts}
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uberpwner123 is not online. uberpwner123
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26 Nov 2015 06:15 AM
take out the "is" at the end of my sentence
I changed something else yet kept that in.

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RayendraF is not online. RayendraF
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26 Nov 2015 07:24 AM
Ride to hell :Retribution
Now that game is sad... really sad
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CatBoy1235 is not online. CatBoy1235
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26 Nov 2015 07:25 AM
"Now that game is sad... really sad"

wait how is it sad
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StealthFreddy is not online. StealthFreddy
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26 Nov 2015 09:11 AM
"wait how is it sad"
I'll just sum it up cleanly...
- Women.
- Treated like "objects."

Y'know, there are quite a lot of games that you play as a girl too.
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GoBackToRedditDotCom is not online. GoBackToRedditDotCom
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26 Nov 2015 09:50 AM
"You'd actually be surprised if you were to look at the ratio of female gamers to male gamers is"

Define "Gamer" Because I assure you females are only a decent proportion of gamers if we count phone gamers.

"Explains why female snipers were just as effective as the male ones on the Russian front in WW2, no?"

They made up 50% of all russian snipers in ww2?

Wew lad


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Propellerhead4 is not online. Propellerhead4
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26 Nov 2015 11:21 AM
i knew this thread was going to be full of gamer gate reddit dude bros but i could have never predicted it being this bad ffs
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jrad217 is not online. jrad217
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26 Nov 2015 11:27 AM
"i dont know, samus kicks ass in smash."
While wearing high heels?

Personally, I think it's not as bad as back then, it's slowly getting better. I wouldn't say it's legit sad now, considering we're getting a lot less damsel in distress type characters now compared to then. (Ex: Faith from Mirror's Edge and Lara Croft from Tomb Raider)
However, the damsel in distress type characters are slowly evolving as well. Peach kicks ass in Smash, Zelda takes up the persona of Sheik and adventures alongside him in Ocarina of Time.
I think as time goes on, we'll start getting more and more genders, races, orientations, etc show properly in videogames as the demographic for games widen and aren't targeted toward the stereotypical white male closeted in his basement.
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Bigtiop26 is not online. Bigtiop26
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26 Nov 2015 11:54 AM
"While wearing high heels?"

Raiden kicks ass in high heels, and he's a guy, so what's your point?
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Kruss is not online. Kruss
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26 Nov 2015 12:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZrzg62Zj0
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jrad217 is not online. jrad217
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26 Nov 2015 02:33 PM
"Raiden kicks ass in high heels, and he's a guy, so what's your point?"

touche
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StarshipPwnzers is not online. StarshipPwnzers
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26 Nov 2015 02:58 PM
They weren't 50% of the snipers, but they were still getting the same average kills as the male ones, and were no less well respected by their fellow soldiers.

Same with female Russian pilots during the war.
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