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Creepcruncher is not online. Creepcruncher
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16 Nov 2015 02:45 PM
>free healthcare
>senators start screaming 'PEOPLE WILL BE LEFT TO DIE LIKE IN ENGLAND'

>gun control to prevent criminals owning assault rifles
>'THEY'RE RESTRICTING OUR FREEDOM'

>military classify sensitive documents
>'WE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW'


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16 Nov 2015 02:46 PM
'its one big sham'

fried not baked
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16 Nov 2015 02:46 PM
'ITS ALL A CONSPIRACY TO BRAINWASH OUR CHILDREN'


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anaka9 is not online. anaka9
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16 Nov 2015 02:47 PM
they classify documents so that the public don't know how weak they are
lol

in a nutshell
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Creepcruncher is not online. Creepcruncher
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16 Nov 2015 02:48 PM
'OGM THE MILITARY R SO WEAK OPERATION DESERT STORM WAS A DISASTER AND ALL THE US ARMY DIED'

wait a minute there


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16 Nov 2015 02:59 PM
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Creepcruncher is not online. Creepcruncher
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16 Nov 2015 03:00 PM
@prof

there's a difference between poor people holding people up with rifles

and then a co-ordinated attack planned for months


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Vineshroom is not online. Vineshroom
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16 Nov 2015 03:01 PM
gun control is really bad though
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16 Nov 2015 03:02 PM
@Vine

gr8, i'll just wait 2 weeks for my license to buy an AR-15 and a few mags of ammo

off to the local bank I hop

oh, I just killed 200 people

'woops'


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16 Nov 2015 03:02 PM
OBAMAS GONNA TAKE MY GUNS

I KNOW IT'S BEEN 7 YEARS AND HE HASN'T BUT HE STILL MIGHT

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16 Nov 2015 03:03 PM
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morrill is not online. morrill
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16 Nov 2015 03:04 PM
">free healthcare
>senators start screaming 'PEOPLE WILL BE LEFT TO DIE LIKE IN ENGLAND'"

Free? Right. The quality has gone to hell, the website didn't even work for months, and the people who needed it can't afford it. I would be fine with a government run healthcare system if weren't implemented by a bunch of monkeys.


">gun control to prevent criminals owning assault rifles
>'THEY'RE RESTRICTING OUR FREEDOM'"

Assault rifles? Already, criminals can't own guns; period. You don't live in America; do you? These 'criminals' are getting their guns from illegal sources. By restricting weapons, all you're doing is making the criminal's job easier.


">military classify sensitive documents
>'WE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW'"

America was founded on 'not trusting the government' and 'the government should fear the people'.
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Creepcruncher is not online. Creepcruncher
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16 Nov 2015 03:04 PM
dealing dodgy stuff?

idk where defending yourself goes from owning a shotgun on a farm, or maybe a pistol, to owning a .50 sniper rifle

eh


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Vineshroom is not online. Vineshroom
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16 Nov 2015 03:05 PM
"By restricting weapons, all you're doing is making the criminal's job easier."
exactly my point
the criminals aren't getting their guns from walmart lmao
the guns they get are going to be from the black market
which isn't restricted by "gun control"
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Creepcruncher is not online. Creepcruncher
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16 Nov 2015 03:07 PM
okay, but you need a dirty record to be barred

if I'm some young psycho, I can buy an assault rifle and murder hundreds of people- first offense, nothing on the record, or I could even get a friend to buy it for me- factory new, perfect condition

"couldn't afford it"

i thought Obamacare was free
is using the NHS as a comparison a bad idea?


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Vineshroom is not online. Vineshroom
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16 Nov 2015 03:08 PM
"if I'm some young psycho, I can buy an assault rifle and murder hundreds of people- first offense, nothing on the record"
but how will gun control stop them from just getting it from the black market?

"or I could even get a friend to buy it for me- factory new, perfect condition"
but how will gun control stop the friend from just getting it from the black market?
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16 Nov 2015 03:09 PM
anyway, if someone runs up to you and shoots you, you wouldn't have time to draw a weapon

the 'black market' is overrated af, it's used by people like you to excuse poor gun control


look at Britain, where gun crime is incredibly low- where's the 'black market'?

police don't even have to be armed and the KIA rate is very low

although, it might be a matter of people themselves

in Britain farmers can own shotguns, but British farmers tend to be sane and mentally healthy, so there's a difference for a start


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Creepcruncher is not online. Creepcruncher
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16 Nov 2015 03:10 PM
okay, but I wouldn't instantly know that Dave on that road can sell me a rifle

sure, there'll be serious criminals, but then more people will be deterred


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morrill is not online. morrill
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16 Nov 2015 03:10 PM
"if I'm some young psycho, I can buy an assault rifle and murder hundreds of people- first offense, nothing on the record, or I could even get a friend to buy it for me- factory new, perfect condition"


You also need a permit to buy an 'assault rifle'.



"i thought Obamacare was free
is using the NHS as a comparison a bad idea?"

You buy packages 'different options' and pay based on the quality you get.

Also, most hospitals do not accept Obamacare anymore.
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Vineshroom is not online. Vineshroom
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16 Nov 2015 03:11 PM
"anyway, if someone runs up to you and shoots you, you wouldn't have time to draw a weapon"
so you're saying that we should just allow them to shoot us? also yes it is very well possible

"the 'black market' is overrated af, it's used by people like you to excuse poor gun control"
if it's "overrated af" then why does the drug war still exist

"look at Britain, where gun crime is incredibly low- where's the 'black market'?"
it's not there because the black market typically comes from central america and central america is very far away from the UK

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Creepcruncher is not online. Creepcruncher
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16 Nov 2015 03:12 PM
I..

It's free healthcare.. that you pay for?

I don't get it.

The NHS will do any necessary operation free of charge, medicines are sold at price they are bought at..

I don't get Obamacare.


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morrill is not online. morrill
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16 Nov 2015 03:12 PM
"Britain, where gun crime is incredibly low- where's the 'black market'?"

Britain is also an island.
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Vineshroom is not online. Vineshroom
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16 Nov 2015 03:13 PM
"okay, but I wouldn't instantly know that Dave on that road can sell me a rifle"
um if you're a criminal yes you would

"sure, there'll be serious criminals, but then more people will be deterred"
so just let the serious criminals roam around with extremely high powered weapons while we have nothing to defend ourselves with? lol
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Creepcruncher is not online. Creepcruncher
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16 Nov 2015 03:13 PM
okay, vine, but I can walk through London at night

some thug might pull a knife

but I'd never get a gun pulled on me unless I was intentionally involved with drug wars


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