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| 11 Nov 2015 10:14 AM |
CREDIT TO FROSTEUS AND SCKAAR FOR HELP WITH FORMATTING AND GRAMMAR//
Yeah, apologies to everyone, we've let you down. It would have been amazing to see a war of this scale end successful, but I'm afraid I'm ending it here. This isn't a surrender or a victory claim, I'm personally ending the war due to RAT breaking war terms and refusing to take back autowins we've proven to be false.
Ok, I know how annoying these are when they pop up, one sided hate and bias which is more about face saving than explaining the problems, so I'll explain the problems from a neutral standpoint.
The score is 0-1 to RAT, they claim 0-5 though the HRs have confirmed that they are aware they are breaking war terms, but don't care. which is a cause of the war ending.
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War terms here: http://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=177145115
The first 3 wins they claim are a breach of war terms, they break the "preflood" rule. On the 2nd deployment of the war they lost both official servers (25v25 roughly). They then hopped into new servers 40v10s and 35v15s, and they won 3 of these servers. The server count for official is 5 AA (yes I was an idiot making war terms). I wouldn't mind giving them these wins in other cases, as they did win at our base. But the reason I'm now allowing them is because of the fact they are 40v10s, and the fact that we aren't including any autowins on our side.
RAT is aware they raided in the preflood times yet refuse to remove the wins, shown here: Q6pkhJY/N7gtvaH/wivXG0d/Zpq7qfA
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The 4th win was legit, we had 27 people patrolling our mirrored fort, they joined, then hopped to server 2 to 35v15 us (again this kind of annoys me as our fort is mirrored, why do they need to hop from a fair fight). They won the 35v15, well done RAT.
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The 5th win is the one thats been the dealbreaker for me as I just can't let the war go on when they are holding this score: mBTk0yN What's wrong with this? Well this is from the server that we 10v6ed them in, along side their 4th win. We won the server, when we win a notification appears at the top saying "Server VOIDED, AA has won" or something along those lines. After we got the win we left to pend for Server 2. When AA left, sneaky RATs went and recapped the term and waited 750 seconds, without resistance from AA. After they got the win message, they screenshotted it and CROPPED OUT the notification at the top. I challenged RAT to display the full image, and if they could I'd surrender. They refused to display the full image and still hold this to their war score. Poly refusing to show the full screenshot: wXg1aYQ, and me stating I'll surrender if they show it is legit: http://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=177778215 nobody has shown it, and they haven't removed it.
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Another reason we are ending it is due to the fact we can't raid, RAT has had it's base down for 2 days now while we've defended still from them. The reason for this is that the war is now "EST only" (which isn't in the war terms atall?) and Polymorphic must be online when the war is underway, which is really stupid as me and most of AA are GMT how are we supposed to get in on the action when it's closed for GMT times? Here is me talking to Polymorphic, and him confirming he is aware of the issue but keeping it closed anyways: DWA6dB0/IvBvVD5/fRUAeZ2/7xYRoyi I mean check right now, pretty sure you'll find RAT's base closed.
On deployment day of the war, 170+ AA rallied to invade RAT's defence rally of 33. Obviously you'd expect the outcome from that to be problematic- well it was. At the last second RAT's base broke, making it impossible to make the terminal official. Obviously many servers were left undefended, and by the war terms we could claim wins. But yeah- that's not a war. I'd rather lose 0-1 than win 8-1 including autowins.
The problem got worse though. Deployment day 2. AA got 140, RAT got about 100. We hit Celeste II with 100 and the other 40 defended. Guess what, 1 server worked. The rest were "exploited" and shutdown by the admins, or the terminal was still broken on them. Meanwhile AA's servers are also exploited, but we choose to let the raid carry on anyways rather than be annoying. Bear in mind it was only music or fog exploited at RATs base, they can clear the fog with :set for 100000 or :music 0. This happened to us, and we just cleared the fog and removed the music rather than shutdown raids.
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And not really relevant to the war, but I find it relevant to mention that this has been nothing but trouble, and anyone considering going to war with RAT should make note of this post. I accepted RATs war declaration where many would decline it. I pretty much knew there was a 10% chance of us winning, but I was determined to have fun on a large scale anyways. I'm proud that we only lost 1 official raid. I always thought RAT was professional and we wouldn't have any trouble, but the proof shown, as well as stuff like this occuring: http://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=177313806
I've also been DDOSed, terminated, spam botted and put through a lot of needless forum stress because of this war, and though I'd love to see RAT withdraw the autowins and end this war officially and properly, I know that they'll just pretend to everyone this thread is a surrender and ignore the bulk of my argument by posting their unofficial and forged win screenshots.
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One thing's for sure.
War.
War never changes.
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| 11 Nov 2015 10:14 AM |
1st Good Game to both sides.
Spread it like peanut butter jelly. Do it like I owe you some moneh. Spread it like.... |
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Frosteus
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| 11 Nov 2015 10:14 AM |
| Shame it had to end this way... |
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R20E
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YomNomNom
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| 11 Nov 2015 10:15 AM |
| nobody cares AA is garbage |
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| 11 Nov 2015 10:15 AM |
"war never changes"
i love this so much |
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RotomWash
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| 11 Nov 2015 10:15 AM |
| gg guys it was fun while it lasted..................... |
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Frosteus
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| 11 Nov 2015 10:15 AM |
| LOL proelio...i lol'd too xd |
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| 11 Nov 2015 10:16 AM |
| Gg, oh well. Good job on both sides. |
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GreenKeeg
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| 11 Nov 2015 10:16 AM |
All things must come to an end, nevermind. The war would have been great, a historical event for all - a shame.
http://www.roblox.com/JACQ-Its-Going-Down-item?id=235438267 < Song for the end... |
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Flexd
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| 11 Nov 2015 10:16 AM |
| yeah im not reading that, all i know is RATs base was 99% shut or broken |
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| 11 Nov 2015 10:16 AM |
""war never changes""
Spread it like peanut butter jelly. Do it like I owe you some moneh. Spread it like.... |
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| 11 Nov 2015 10:16 AM |
| whoever's idea it was to put that in this is a genius |
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YomNomNom
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Rildocon
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| 11 Nov 2015 10:19 AM |
| Probably for the best.. don't want Zan terminated again. |
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| 11 Nov 2015 10:20 AM |
| This is actually a real shame, but yeah the EST only rule was BS. |
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| 11 Nov 2015 10:21 AM |
| Sorry this had to happen. Everyone is just so focused up on winning rather than having fun nowadays. :/ |
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| 11 Nov 2015 10:21 AM |
| I agree with Hobby for once. |
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