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Re: the fight for 15$ thing is so stupid

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zachlovespizza is not online. zachlovespizza
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10 Nov 2015 07:17 PM
how the hell is it my fault that you have a job that is supposed to be meant for teens
how is it my fault that the ones that didnt go to college not go to college
why should we give you free oney for just flipping a damn frozen patty
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Norskee is not online. Norskee
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10 Nov 2015 07:19 PM
jobs that are minimum wage are literally meant to be entry level jobs

you aren't supposed to live off of them

if the minimum wage is raised to where you can sustain a life off of it, more people are going to start working at McDonalds which is going to lower the incentive to get a higher education, and raise the prices of their terrible hamburgers lol

many many more reasons why a higher minimum wage is bad
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zachlovespizza is not online. zachlovespizza
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10 Nov 2015 07:22 PM
norskee you do realize that i dont support it....
and i already know what happens if their paychecks get raised to 15$
so there was no need to act hostile like that
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Norskee is not online. Norskee
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10 Nov 2015 07:23 PM
zachlovespizza you do realize that I'm just adding more reasons why it's stupid

I'm not acting hostile
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benere is online. benere
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10 Nov 2015 07:25 PM
JUst STUPID GIRl GIRLS DEZ DAY SO LADY GAGA
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Kaboose671 is not online. Kaboose671
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10 Nov 2015 07:27 PM
"how is it my fault that the ones that didnt go to college not go to college"


just to be fair not everybody has that money

if u grow up in the hood just get street creds on ball and make it into nba

doesn't always work


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Kaboose671 is not online. Kaboose671
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10 Nov 2015 07:28 PM
but 15 is pretty high

not sure where that number came from
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romuluz is online. romuluz
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10 Nov 2015 07:32 PM
No, correction, minimum wage was originally put into place to be a LIVING WAGE due to the circumstances of the '20s. Now it wasn't supposed to provide people with great lives and were still meant to be able to provide someone with a living wage to afford a low end appartment and be able to get to college.

Minimum wages DO NOT provide this, and yes, while it isn't YOUR fault that it's like this it is the governments.
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ExaltedArchitect is not online. ExaltedArchitect
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10 Nov 2015 07:32 PM
go to community college and transfer
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romuluz is online. romuluz
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10 Nov 2015 07:39 PM
Beautiful logic. But that's the exact problem. Minimum wage does not provide enough to pay for that and therefore you have a lot of students on government aid, which is NOT goot for the economy. That's the consequence of having a minimum wage that is not a living wage among other htings.
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FrozenRazor is not online. FrozenRazor
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10 Nov 2015 07:44 PM
what about me and burgers?
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Dynerov is not online. Dynerov
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10 Nov 2015 07:47 PM
Minimum wage is living wage.

Why they implemented this: To ensure people could actually live and do stuff other than live.

What they should have really done: Make it where it adjusts to the inflation.

Also, why can't we tax the rich? How much is 26% to them? Out of a million a year, that's still 740K a year, which is enough to buy two houses.
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romuluz is online. romuluz
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10 Nov 2015 08:07 PM
Well said Dyn.
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Dynerov is not online. Dynerov
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10 Nov 2015 08:16 PM
I mean, what would be better if we didn't arrest everyone that's homeless. Not my fault they're homeless. Also not my fault we have too much people, you wanna solve one or the- Oh man, if I ever tell that to Congress, they'd have war with North Korea...
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10 Nov 2015 08:17 PM
rawr
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zachlovespizza is not online. zachlovespizza
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10 Nov 2015 08:19 PM
why would we tax more money from the rich if they earned it themselves unlike people on welfare
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Dynerov is not online. Dynerov
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10 Nov 2015 08:24 PM
Oh, I dunno, because ever heard of a FRENCH REVOLUTION?

OR RED OCTOBER?
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romuluz is online. romuluz
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10 Nov 2015 08:27 PM
Because they can afford it, and will still be making hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars more than those on Welfare.

Also a huge reason why there are a lot of people are on welfare is because minimum wage is so low. I can almost guarentee you that one of the consequences of raising minimum wage would be less people on government aid while the consequences of a lower minimum wage is more people on govt. aid among other things.
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zachlovespizza is not online. zachlovespizza
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10 Nov 2015 08:33 PM
look
being a socialist country wont help the country
we give money to the poor and they dont get jobs
the homeless can get jobs if they wanted to but they arent motivated because they get paid by welfare
it wont help anything if the rich gets taxed more


ALSO this is what could happen if the minimum gets raised
mcdonalds has 20 workers
they are getting paid 7.10(or whatever minumum wage is for your state)
minimum wage gets raised
so now mcdonalds is paying those 20 workers 15$ a hour
so its either raise their items to make more money to pay for the workers OR
instead of having 20 workers being paid 15$
they cut their work force in half so itd be 10 workers instead getting paid 15$ and working more hours than before

you cant expect the minimum wage to get raised without there being consequences
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Dynerov is not online. Dynerov
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10 Nov 2015 08:37 PM
Zach, I don't think you understand one thing about this.

Minimum wage, is for people who work.

Not for sweaty bible-thumping neckbeards who complain about it.

Plus, with more money comes with the better opportunity for college. I can tell you that a degree pays more, but how are you going to pay for the degree without having to get some stupid student loan that makes you in debt eternally?
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romuluz is online. romuluz
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10 Nov 2015 08:40 PM
1) Excellent, to talk about your point in min wage. To ease your concerns, Economists have done studies, and at a minimum wage of 15 an hour, they only need to raise their prices by something like 5 or 10 cents per burger and they will recoup their losses. I think that's a fair "loss" for the benefits a higher minimum wage would bring with time such as a bigger middle class to replenish it's dying numbers and getting a lot more people off of government aid, which would be wonderful for the government's spending.

It'd also be helpful to know that in the few cities that have implemented minimum wage, unemployment rates have actually gone DOWN.

2) Go back to 10th grade because it's obvious that you're talking politics without any knowledge on what makes our country. Our country IS socialist, well, Capitalist-Socialist. Mininmum wage on it's own is a socialistic system, among many many other systems in our country, some of which you and the rich benefit off of and again, by raising the taxes on the rich we STILL would be very capitalistic, as those hard working rich people will STILL make way more money than the lower classes.

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zachlovespizza is not online. zachlovespizza
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10 Nov 2015 08:41 PM
im pretty sure i know how this will play out
the people in that state thats getting its minimum wage raised to will either lose more jobs than it had before
or prices on items will skyrocket, that includes the college debt
maybe even both will happen

pay attention in class, cause they teach you about this
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Skydric is not online. Skydric
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10 Nov 2015 08:46 PM
how the hell is minimum wage not being able to be lived off of

just marry a guy and combine your money? if you make 20-30k a year you then make 50-60k and that's not too shabby??

like honestly, maybe people should stop being lazy and actually use logic to their advantage
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romuluz is online. romuluz
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10 Nov 2015 08:47 PM
"It'd also be helpful to know that in the few cities that have implemented minimum wage, unemployment rates have actually gone DOWN." x2.

Please read before you make more idiotic statements.

Also it's funny you mention that and then you go off on the long stale rhetoric about socialism when our country is comprised out of many socialistic systems and has been for a LONG time.
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Dynerov is not online. Dynerov
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10 Nov 2015 08:50 PM
@romuluz

Apparently, "mixed market" sounds like some "communist new world order" stuff to him.
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