meepo44
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| 03 Nov 2015 12:26 AM |
http://www.roblox.com/my/groups.aspx
Let's be as simple as possible.
You all know that paul does not have a good reputation. And I don't trust him that much either, as you all know I am very skeptical.
HOWEVER. Paul has the best chance of anyone I know *aside from dystra* To restart TGI legitimately. It does seem like he is straight up stealing TGI. This is true, Entirely.
However. When you think about it, TGI is just a collection of aspirations, one of which is right here.
The worst thing that CAN be done to those is letting them down. TGI certainly, absolutely did, TGI's history is a sad story of drama, incompetence and bitterness. If that's all paul is going to take then I say let him take the pain away by all means.
As for how reputable he is? Ok let's examine this. Caste as far as I'm concerned had a very very strong clan in which he did very little and mostly contributed sub-par ideas too when the clan mostly ran off the shoulders of CraktheRaven and Smog and Battery, great Arcadian legends with experience and wisdom that kept us strong. Regardless of still being flawed. Caste then LEFT, which I don't care about either way but as far as I'm concerned creating a group is no "great" service, therefore while I give him credit, it's not a lot. Also he ended up coming back and being run by Doom and then the clan shut down with him contributing NOTHING to TGI in his return hence proving his actual INCOMPETENCE as a leader.
Toberdam... Let's just not go there.... I have not a HUGE amount against him really.. But it's just a sad chapter in TGI history that's best forgotten.
Rodgerdodger? This ROCKS for BRAINS genius managed to "reform" TGI 3 times in his 2 year reign, accomplishing nothing, creating useless sub clans that did nothing but divide TGI in the worst possible ways while breaking the TGI system down to a useless lump. All the while we lost vets because of his horrid bias and dramatics. Needless to say he promoted EGOTISTICAL, DISTURBED, and frankly just down right USELESS HRs to important positions because either he was simply playing favorites or was just downright STUPID. The guy did not make a SINGLE good decision for the clan in his ENTIRE reign and ended up not only failing us all by not giving the clan to it's worthy inheritor DystraTala. But in fact gave it to TAINTEDDARK of all people on this gods green earth. As a final note I may want to mention the guy ALSO went and started his own clan Haven and recruited TGI into it. He was basically a traitor and a coward and a pig and was almost entirely responsible for the death of TGI due to the lack of foresight of Castellian who while was not an ignoramus was at least completely mentally deficient.
Leading up to that we got tainteddark. I don't even need to go into this one. Just like tober. Let's just forget that happened.
And you all know the rest. Look paul MAY, and I say may because even I don't know for sure, *though I'm pretty sure* a cheater, use dirty tactics, and hop from clan to clan building them up. But he's a STRONG leader, He's talented in leading and applied to his goals. He may not be by any standard reputable enough to be trusted with such a responsibility. BUT IS OUR PREVIOUS LEADERS REALLY ANYTHING TO JUDGE BY? FFS you got an ignoramus, a child, a pig, and a coward. Now you have a con man. Frankly that sounds better then any of the previous things listed. And on top of all that I TRUST paul to some degree regardless of previous actions. I know he won't give up on things if we don't give up on him.
TGI has always been a flawed creature, glorious to behold from the inside perspective, tainted from the outside perspective, and dirty when you really get down to it.
Our legacy has been one of drama, spent effort, struggle and hard fought glory.
I don't want to sit around on my HANDS waiting for a new good group to crop up. TGI has plenty of people left willing to fight for it on a moments notice. We said it never died and it never did, It just lost more and more leaders because they were NEVER our leaders to begin with. The true great lords of Arcadia past long ago. That DOES NOT mean new ones cannot rise again. Had I been given the choice, at any time, I would have picked paul as our leader for Arcadia, not as high as Battery, or as Dystra. But I would have instantly swapped Rodger for him, Or Tober, or tainted.
TGI survived by always believing it could make things work in the end. I hung on for three LONG years watching, struggling for and waiting for the day when we might be once again free to determine our own destiny again. This may not be that day, that day might never come at all.
Willing, to put our swords to the curb and barrel down for something that may or may not be true at all. To live in suspense, grasping at a dream we once held.
I could wish for nothing more desirable. I am not a patriotic man nor do I possess a loyal bone in my body, because loyalties are lies and the ones to be loyal too are lies. Perhaps pauls Arcadia will crash, and burn in the fires of doubt, deceit and destruction of what we hold dear once again.
But that is the path that this warrior has roamed for long times past. For the same reason that TGI grew weak the same reason it could never win is the same reason it can STILL reach it's goals, it is because it is afraid to lose. It was afraid to defend, to fight on fair grounds, to pit their metal against the strongest that the world had to offer.
The spirit of Arcadia was always the strongest, until it no longer believed it. But in THIS warrior the spirit has never faded, and that is why I will never be afraid to take on the next challenge, because I have nothing left to lose, for it has all been taken from me by the cowardice of others. All except for my Arcadian spirit. Because the Arcadian Spirit is that of the strongest steel.
And I had to watch as every one of the Arcadians I served with FORGOT what it meant to WIN, for they had stopped winning in spirit.
Perhaps Arcadia will never again rise from the ashes of what it was, perhaps Arcadia will always be weak.
But there stands here an Arcadian of the finest caliber telling you that IT IS NOT OVER until YOU think it's over and that's when you LOSE deep down inside. I don't believe in paul, I don't even LIKE paul. I don't even LIKE Arcadia. And I don't even like any of you "Arcadians"
You're so busy talking about how GREAT the legacy of TGI is you can't even see how WEAK you are deep down. Too weak to trust in yourselves, too weak to fight for yourselves, too weak to face it.
I say here and now that any Arcadian that doesn't join the new Arcadia is a COWARD and a disgrace and not even WORTHY of calling themselves Arcadian. Because any PART of you that's still Arcadian is busy sitting in some dank rotten place in your mind still believing how GREAT it is.
Arcadia is not great, it is weak, more so now then ever before. And it's all your fault.
You can live on Believing that there was greatness before the tragedy. That there was some POINT to the "Legacy" you defend.
Well let me, someone who guarded it far longer and more steadfastly then you, tell you something.
There WASN'T.
And so long as you just sit there with that DUMB look on your face, there never will be.
Don't trust in paul, Don't trust in "Arcadia" Don't even trust in yourself.
Trust in me. Because I believed that a new and stronger Arcadia then the one I was disgusted to live in was possible.
And because I believe.
That you can too.
It is up to you Arcadia, for once in our history of dispute, and distrust, and of what is still to come.
Let me believe it again. |
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| 03 Nov 2015 12:27 AM |
Seems legit But didn't our last leader want to... keep it shutdown? |
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Crystal55
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| 03 Nov 2015 12:28 AM |
| Have fun trying to live up to old TGI's expectations when Castellian wanted it shutdown for a reason. |
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IiMZ
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| 03 Nov 2015 12:29 AM |
Here meepo goes with his paragraphs
SQ was right LMAO
i love you meepo :") |
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Seviro
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| 03 Nov 2015 12:29 AM |
"http://www.roblox.com/my/groups.aspx"
http://www.roblox.com/sev3-item?id=290109654 |
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Gunism
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| 03 Nov 2015 12:30 AM |
you messed up on group link http://www.roblox.com/Groups/Group.aspx?gid=1061982 |
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| 03 Nov 2015 12:32 AM |
| Just let it go, the rebellion is over. |
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| 03 Nov 2015 12:34 AM |
| I basically meant what crystal said. |
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squidboi2
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| Joined: 25 Apr 2009 |
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| 03 Nov 2015 12:34 AM |
"Let's be as simple as possible."
>proceeds to write an encyclopedia |
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meepo44
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| 03 Nov 2015 12:39 AM |
Ikr squibo?
Also yea i fked up the group link... GG.
T_T
wrote a chapter but couldn't double check the link GG thanks guys.
Anyway.
Yea for those of you asking.
This will proooobably all blow up in our faces. Since paul can't be trusted. But that's no different then TGI ever was. Or any other clan for tha tmatter. So if you cared about TGI before. I don't really see the difference now.
Honestly I hate every leader of TGI. Doesn't stop me from serving them until they do something stupid enough to revolt against. IF paul DOESN'T do that. Then ffs he is a better leader then them.
Simple as taht. |
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Falkion
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| 03 Nov 2015 12:39 AM |
| Good luck wasting your time. |
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Crystal55
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| 03 Nov 2015 12:40 AM |
Meepo, he going to probably just pull everything out from under you guys.
TGI will NEVER be revived and NEVER be close to what it ever was or the potential it once had.
It's done, it's over. Accept it. Good things come to an end. Let it just lay in peace for once. |
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| 03 Nov 2015 12:43 AM |
| It should stay at it's shutdown status, just how the original owner and leader wanted it. If you really respected TGI, then you would not have joined a copy, in which the majority of TGI veterans do not like the leader nor the idea of a "new TGI". That was not meant to insult you, just take my words into consideration, please. |
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| 03 Nov 2015 12:46 AM |
In my opinion groups reliving old groups can never succeed. Because veterans want the old experience back which you will never get. New people want new things which they won't get trying to relive past.
Sometimes groups were well and they died. Why look back at past to relive it, revive it.
When you can look forward? |
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Prelorian
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| 03 Nov 2015 12:46 AM |
| I'm still doubting whether Paul can revive tgi, but honestly pretty much everything in this thread is true. It's worth giving the new Arcadia a try. |
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meepo44
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| 03 Nov 2015 12:47 AM |
Did you read it? I said I DIDN'T respect TGI. At all.
It's leaders were garbage and a lot of them were just cowards.
TGI is just a clan assembled under a crap leadership with a lot of legacy of people who are NO LONGER HERE except for guys like me and jim.
Who are both in it. |
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Falkion
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| 03 Nov 2015 11:56 AM |
lol meepo
what would you know about leading
what does paul know about leading, except for the knowledge he has on updating your base, which seemingly has become an important requirement of becoming a leader, and is even considered a valuable asset
commit |
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| 03 Nov 2015 12:03 PM |
Without Cast, TGI is nothing.
All you're doing is insulting the group's reputation, leave TGI where it should be.
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| 03 Nov 2015 12:08 PM |
| I can't believe you of all people condone Paul's actions... |
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| 03 Nov 2015 12:13 PM |
The leadership didn't care for you either Meepo.
Paul's TGI won't succeed, as clans such as UAF, FC, WIJ, and other old TGI allied don't want to see this. Along with clans such as Legion and DoV. Two groups that both were founded off of the death of Arcadia.
Paul is a coward, a thief, a liar, and a cheat. Nothing good comes from any of that, and no good leader does any of that.
He is a dictator. And dictators are overthrown. |
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| 03 Nov 2015 12:13 PM |
When I joined TGI, I quite frankly saw nothing but potential in it since Cast had returned. If anything, it was about to dawn into a new golden age and turn into something of merit as it was before. If anyone should be accused of 'pulling the rug out from under' you, it should be Cast. He abandoned everyone in TGI when the clan had the most potential to rise again.
I don't blame anyone for joining Paul because Cast shutdown the clan at one of the worst possible times in my mind.
Rise from the Darkness |
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| 03 Nov 2015 12:16 PM |
| Cast lost his rock, Doom. Don't blame him. And if you do, you can't. Because it was his clan to shutdown, and he'll continue to be the legacy. He was the Emperor, forever and always. |
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| 03 Nov 2015 12:19 PM |
i dont see what losing a pet rock has to do with anything but ok...
Rise from the Darkness |
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| 03 Nov 2015 12:21 PM |
| Castellian shutdown TGI when it had a terrible reputation and was dead, that is unacceptable, he should've shut it down BEFORE he gave it to tober if he wanted its "legacy" to live on. No one but the TGI veterans respect TGI's legacy because everyone else knows that the past TGI leaders didn't do so well with leading TGI once cast gave it up, it was hyped up by tainted and then shutdown a while later, its pathetic, really. |
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fabiao
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| 03 Nov 2015 12:21 PM |
did paul get permission from cast, rodger, tober, or any of the past leaders of TGI?
did paul get permission to reuse any of the uniforms, logos, forts, buildings, or any other means of graphic design?
if not, i won't see myself joining. i don't think it's right or respectful to recreate something and not at least ask if you can do it
☣ - RAT Great Admiral: Foreign and Domestic Chairman - ☣ |
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