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Re: The main reason why clans are broken

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RobotWeegee101 is not online. RobotWeegee101
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26 Oct 2015 04:01 PM
For anyone wanting to know, my reference is http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=176923274

If you don't want to read all that I'll sum it up:

- VIP Clans gave Super Clans a bad stigma from 2013-2014.

- Power Clans started to look attractive

- In 2013-2014 Power Clans ruled the clan world, Super Clans started to die off

- Since Power Clans are really unstable, most of the old ones have recently died (TGI,
VOID)

- Currently, since Power Clans still look attractive, most small clans are pretending to be Power Clans by only allowing skilled people to join, or by forcing members to go through an academy system

- Super Clans (which were once were all the new clannies used to go) are dead, and new clan people can't join Power Clans because of the exclusivity

- So clans in general are starting to lose newcomers because of the fact that most Super Clans are dead

- The whole clan system is also getting turned upside down because Power Clans/Wannabe Power Clans never patrol their bases (other than VAK but that's an exception)

- The fact that people don't patrol forts anymore means that a vital part of the Roblox clan system is gone, one of the parts that made clans active

So how do we fix this?

Simple, We need to make Super Clans attractive again, we can't have every single clan in this game try to be a Power Clan, there's no balance.


There's my two cents, I wasted way too much time in this game to let a part of it die off.
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RobotWeegee101 is not online. RobotWeegee101
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26 Oct 2015 04:02 PM
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RobotWeegee101 is not online. RobotWeegee101
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26 Oct 2015 04:06 PM
All these new war terms that people are coming up with aren't going to do anything. The reason clans are dead is because super clans are dead
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budgers is not online. budgers
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26 Oct 2015 04:07 PM
yes
we need super clans so we can get new people into clans
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RobotWeegee101 is not online. RobotWeegee101
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26 Oct 2015 04:09 PM
Most of the people here in C&G are new, they have no idea how clans were before the rise of the power clan.

Until the old veteran members start acting, clans are going to stay dead
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HobbyPlaysGames is not online. HobbyPlaysGames
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26 Oct 2015 04:09 PM
What we need to happen is for the Super Clans to start gaining more attention and build heat. More ad campaigns to re-ignite the Super Clans would be a great start.
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Surgo is not online. Surgo
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26 Oct 2015 04:12 PM
Super clans are the reason why the clan world is dead.

Having a large majority of your players in one or two groups will destroy the whole idea of having a community.

You must have a variety of many clans that equal one another out
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RobotWeegee101 is not online. RobotWeegee101
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26 Oct 2015 04:14 PM
I'm not saying we should kill small clans and power clans off, but we need a balance.

The fact is, super clans were where new clan people would get introduced to clans, that part of the system is gone now
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Thelegender is not online. Thelegender
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26 Oct 2015 04:20 PM
Clans are broken due to a lack of functioning interaction. A clans purpose is way too abstract right now. Everything in the clan world is too flimsy, uninterpreted, and chaotic; and that's not an ecosystem where anyone can have much fun.
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Surgo is not online. Surgo
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26 Oct 2015 04:24 PM
Well no, I disagree. However, I can see where you're going

Most new players join clans for a specific genre. This would include a time date in history. For example, World war 1/2, Medieval era, or simply a modern military.

What I have discovered with spending time in most of these clans, are that you can see rivalries between them. 'War' is never declared, but it's just thought of being there. Constant raiding of both sides does infact occur, however, no one is truly saying which side is winning.



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LaggKill is not online. LaggKill
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26 Oct 2015 04:26 PM
I agree with you 100% because I've been thinking the same thing
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dracomanx is not online. dracomanx
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26 Oct 2015 04:30 PM
I personally never had a problem with VIP super clans. If using VIP gives you tons of recruit, then why not? I had the most fun here in 11-12, super clans were a big part of why I got into clans in the first place.
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RobotWeegee101 is not online. RobotWeegee101
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26 Oct 2015 04:43 PM
Surgo most of the issues you're stating were even more prominent before clans started dying
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ShadowSTR is not online. ShadowSTR
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26 Oct 2015 04:44 PM
>says power clans is the problem
>joins power clans


smh
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RobotWeegee101 is not online. RobotWeegee101
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26 Oct 2015 04:46 PM
@Shadow

Power clans existing aren't the problem, the problem is that most super clans on Roblox are dead. There's no balance. Read the entire thing
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Moulded is not online. Moulded
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26 Oct 2015 04:46 PM
Thanks to VIP recruting, the people who join clans won't really patrol bases that much since they're more focused on playing front page games. If they do patrol, they'll do a hell of an awful job at it.

Furthermore it ruins the overall skill level of the clan and even if people say you can train them, training a lot of them is a hard job.

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ShadowSTR is not online. ShadowSTR
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26 Oct 2015 04:48 PM
doesn't change the fact you are supporting power clans instead of putting that time into super clans which will 'save the clan world'


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dracomanx is not online. dracomanx
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26 Oct 2015 04:50 PM
"Furthermore it ruins the overall skill level of the clan and even if people say you can train them, training a lot of them is a hard job."

If you are so concerned about skill level, don't you realize elites exist for a reason, no super clan is going to be "skilled", the immense amount of recruits can't all be trained. You answered your own problem
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RobotWeegee101 is not online. RobotWeegee101
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26 Oct 2015 04:51 PM
Well first of all I'm in RAT, but I've never really liked RAT's structure in the first place so it's a bit difficult for me to be 100% active in it

Besides, this is a problem that the entirety of C&G needs to resolve. Clans like JC should honestly be given to someone who can lead it
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