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Re: New war system

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HobbyPlaysGames is not online. HobbyPlaysGames
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26 Oct 2015 03:58 PM
After doing research on the war system, I figured out why clans are not as good as before: the war system. The war system is pretty corrupt to me and is causing tensions between the clans and ultimately making clans pull out or cancel the war. This is especially frustrating if clanners have been REALLY anticipating the war. However, I've come up with a new war system to help make clans have no problem with the terms.

-Clan A and Clan B meet in a meeting room in-game and discuss terms.

-Once both clans have agreed upon the terms, they set a war beginning. Once the war begins, the terms go into effect.

-If one of the terms is broken during a raid, that will result in 1 autowin on the raiding team. This will assure the terms are followed during the war.

-Just like as you'd expect, defense wins do not count.

If you have any suggestions for this new system I came up with, tell me. I'm looking for more ideas.
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GrimmReaper7 is not online. GrimmReaper7
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26 Oct 2015 03:58 PM
"After doing research on the war system, I figured out why clans are not as good as before: the war system."

My sides.
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HobbyPlaysGames is not online. HobbyPlaysGames
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26 Oct 2015 04:00 PM
@Grimm

I have proof? VS Vs. UCR is pretty much turning into UAF Vs. VAK from a few months ago. UAF and VAK had trouble with the terms, therefore the war was called off. VS and UCR now are starting to experience the same problems. The terms are apparently not being abided by and the war is falling apart.
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Jradi is online. Jradi
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26 Oct 2015 04:02 PM
The war system hasn't been changed since the dawn of clans, however the people who use it have.
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HobbyPlaysGames is not online. HobbyPlaysGames
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26 Oct 2015 04:04 PM
@Jradi

Exactly. The war system is outdated. We need a new one that is a huge improvement over the old one. And with the part about the terms being broken and the other clan gaining a win, it makes sense.

This will make sure that the clans do not break the rules.

Oh, and the opposing clan also must provide proof of the term being broken for the win to count.
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Thelegender is not online. Thelegender
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26 Oct 2015 04:04 PM
This is simply a more organized version of how things usually go down, and I feel like it's just as prone to the same complications. Having teams "call their own fouls", if you will, is the root of many such complications.

Who's to say who broke which war term? What if the accused side disagrees? What usually happens is the whole thing goes to hell after much arguing and what makes it even worse is half of the community is completely fine with things happening this way.
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HobbyPlaysGames is not online. HobbyPlaysGames
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26 Oct 2015 04:06 PM
@The

Really anyone can. They can PM the proof of the term breaking to a commanding officer and they can show it.
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Jradi is online. Jradi
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26 Oct 2015 04:07 PM
No.

We cannot fix something which isn't broken.

Clan leaders remain the problem.


Welsh Banter | Gingie from Shrek | The Biscuit Of '99
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Thelegender is not online. Thelegender
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26 Oct 2015 04:13 PM
"Really anyone can. They can PM the proof of the term breaking to a commanding officer and they can show it."

So what? Anything can be denied. This is a system reliant on trust and cooperation between two opposing sides. A system in which one side cannot be punished unless they allow it to happen is no system that can succeed.

We have to create a system in which authority over terms, the war, and the victor is brutally unbiased.

What we are doing now has utterly failed the test of time, and it isn't getting better. You want to sit around and wait for more level-headed, cooperative, and fair members and leaders of clans to fix this fragile ecosystem? Good luck.
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Surgo is not online. Surgo
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26 Oct 2015 04:15 PM
i don't see a difference to how wars are setup now


although you forgot about all of the complaining everyone does
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