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bookface6 is not online. bookface6
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09 Oct 2015 09:12 PM
Thoughts about the upcoming playoffs?
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TheHarlequinsDemise is not online. TheHarlequinsDemise
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09 Oct 2015 09:12 PM
what the hell is usl
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nastyeddie is online. nastyeddie
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09 Oct 2015 09:13 PM
rip the riverhounds
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bookface6 is not online. bookface6
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09 Oct 2015 09:13 PM
3rd divison

pretty sure the only people who pay any attention to it is Ale, Nastyeddie and I (and maybe sir???)
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nastyeddie is online. nastyeddie
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09 Oct 2015 09:15 PM
the thing is, we celebrated FAR too early.
we had control of the game vs NYRB II in the first half.
our defence was literally on vacation during the 2nd half.
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bookface6 is not online. bookface6
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09 Oct 2015 09:18 PM
USL is the equviliant of League 1 in England even though it should be the Championship.

Also @Eddie

I was sad but happy at the same time for Charlotte's performances. We played extremely well for our inaugural season, even going on a 12 (pretty sure) unbeaten run. Sad we missed out on the playoffs but things are really looking good for us.
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TheHarlequinsDemise is not online. TheHarlequinsDemise
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09 Oct 2015 09:19 PM
why don't you have pro/rel in the us? your population more than any other could sustain having it.
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bookface6 is not online. bookface6
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09 Oct 2015 09:20 PM
No clue, I really wish there was.

But it's far to late at this point, the talent/wage gap is huge, and it would take atleast a decade for it to settle down.
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bookface6 is not online. bookface6
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09 Oct 2015 09:21 PM
*too
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nastyeddie is online. nastyeddie
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09 Oct 2015 09:23 PM
Also adding, last season our defence was horrible in the playoffs too.

also regarding dom and book talking about pro/rel

The MLS Is the most buisness like league in the world, its very money oriented. People buy MLS Franchises, where you get 30,000 people a game. Not a NASL Franchise, where you get 10,100 fans. It's a massive waste of money. It also hurts the careers of retired former european players knowing that they are playing in the american minor leagues lol. It's a stupid argument. However it would be a heck of a time seeing Pittsburgh get promoted lol.
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bookface6 is not online. bookface6
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09 Oct 2015 09:26 PM
considering how large the USL P is we could get like 5 or 6 at least going
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Deshoras is not online. Deshoras
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10 Oct 2015 12:47 AM
I'd actually care for football in the US if they had promotion and relegation.

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jimbobucky is not online. jimbobucky
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10 Oct 2015 12:53 AM
Branching off of what nasty said,

MLS wants owners and expansion teams to come running to them. How do they do that? A big part of it is no promotion/relegation. The lure for owners so invest in MLS and start up a team is to make a profit, and if teams run the risk of being relegated in a country where soccer is really not that popular in the domestic leagues, there is not a big profit, if any, to be made. Being relegated means losing the interest of thousands of fans, and as a result losing lots of money.
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bookface6 is not online. bookface6
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10 Oct 2015 05:31 AM
*USL PDL

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TheHarlequinsDemise is not online. TheHarlequinsDemise
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10 Oct 2015 06:40 AM
"Being relegated means losing the interest of thousands of fans, and as a result losing lots of money."

newcastle united, leeds united, wimbledon, juventus, parma and a lot more clubs of that stature have been relegated and still maintained (clubs like leeds still do) massive amounts of support despite being relegated. nottingham forest are the first (and only) european champions to be relegated to the 3rd division and they still have a huge following too.

clubs would still have a lot of people who care about them, especially in the us.
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10 Oct 2015 01:38 PM
"clubs would still have a lot of people who care about them, especially in the us."

If by a lot, you mean almost nothing compared to other leagues here, then you're right, and that's definitely not what you're saying

Highest MLS rating this season was ~500K viewers on a Sunday

For reference, an NFL game got 27.4 million viewers on a Thursday

You have 0 idea what life is like here in the U.S. and the entire attitude toward soccer
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jimbobucky is not online. jimbobucky
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10 Oct 2015 01:44 PM
The fact that your reasoning for pro/rel is "population" is laughable

The NASL/USL doesn't even have a TV deal
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10 Oct 2015 01:49 PM
Also note how whenever I go to riverhounds games, tickets cost $20 and they sell a couple thousand, which is 90,000-120,000 in ticket sales for home games. Compare that to the MLS, triple the price, and the sales rise tenfold. Charging MLS ticket prices for a NASL/USL Game is Blashpemous because people just don't care, and you wont sell a lot of tickets.
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Swagudelo is not online. Swagudelo
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10 Oct 2015 01:55 PM
You're paying $20 for Riverhounds tickets? You're getting ripped off. I pay $22 for upper end line Dynamo tickets. Just bought tickets for the Sounders game at $26.
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Swagudelo is not online. Swagudelo
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10 Oct 2015 01:57 PM
Also, it's worth mentioning that the Dynamo have some of the highest prices in the league and that you could go across a few other MLS markets with the cheapest seats going as low as $15
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jimbobucky is not online. jimbobucky
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10 Oct 2015 01:57 PM
Camboo got 4 tickets for the Revs for like $60
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nastyeddie is online. nastyeddie
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10 Oct 2015 01:59 PM
mightve been like 15
i dont really know
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jimbobucky is not online. jimbobucky
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10 Oct 2015 02:00 PM
Obviously these were from a third party, but tickets on stubhub were as low as $5 for Stanford - San Jose State football a couple years ago. Different sport, but I couldn't believe the deal that was lol
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Swagudelo is not online. Swagudelo
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10 Oct 2015 02:01 PM
USL tickets shouldn't be more than $5. In fact, FC Montreal, the reserve team for the Impact, has free admission.
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10 Oct 2015 02:02 PM
e_e stlfc tickets are 15-25 bucks
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