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Re: Disestablishment of Special Forces

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mohamed122601 is not online. mohamed122601
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08 Oct 2015 11:08 AM
- Office of Military Representative Mohamed N. A. -
- US Congress -
- Washington D.C -
- October 8th 2015 -

- Preamble -
Upon the passing of this bill Special Forces will be shutdown and therefore replaced by SOCOM. Special Forces has no point anymore and basically, is a fake replica of the real Special Forces our nation possesses. SOCOM is fit to replace SF for the following reasons:
1. They have a similar amount of operatives.
2. They have extensive, stronger training.
3. They exist as the actual special forces in real life.
4. They train in counter-terrorism and other important objectives rather then serving as a daily-seen force acting as law enforcement.
5. This will boost military activity and recognition.
6. They train more often, operate under much higher secrecy and operate with congressional approval.

- Section I | Transferal -
The special forces will no longer exist once this bill is passed, operatives from SF will be transferred to SOCOM or will have the choice to retire, operatives whom choose to transfer to SOCOM may operate as military or civilian personnel within SOCOM. Previous SF Leadership will take over command of a Special Forces Division, yet to be decided but expected to be the 75th Rangers Regiment or US Army Special Forces, Green Berets.

- Section II | Operational Stability -
The US SOCOM will require Congressional approval of 3/4 or more of the online congressmen. Operations will be integrated under the clearance levels of the SSO and information collected would be sent to the ODNI. SOCOM will operate under complete secrecy instead of the current SF let everyone see you operate technique.

- Section III | Operational Types -
SOCOM will follow its current operation types, reconnaissance, special intelligence and counter-terrorism strikes. Operations will be stored in intelligence files with the IC.

- Section IV | Deployment -
SOCOM will be able to deploy in LV or DC, as well as warzones as long as approved by 3/4 of online Congressmen and/or the POTUS.

- Section V | SOCOM Forces -
The following constitute as SOCOM forces:

* SEALs
* SFOD-D [Delta]
* 75th Rangers Regiment
* US Army Special Forces [Green Berets]
* Air Force Special Operations Command
* Marine Raiders
* MARSOC
* ASOC
* NAVSOC

These will be under unified command of both the JSOC [Joint Special Operations Command] and SOCOM [Special Operations Command].

- Conclusion -
SOCOM is much more organized, well trained, better funded and operate in higher secrecy. They serve a higher objective then the current agency meant to do its job, SF. As you can see replacing SF with SOCOM is the first step of integrating the DOD and USM with NUSA itself, also increasing our nations counter-terrorism potential. It is also suggested to LVCC to create a team for SOCOM in establishment of this replacement.

Thank You,
~
Military Representative Mohamed N. A.
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CountDookuSW is not online. CountDookuSW
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08 Oct 2015 11:15 AM
Makes sense but

It's unrealistic how ro-nations deploy special forces into their cities lol

Like you don't do that irl...you just send in the national guard if things are that bad lel
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mohamed122601 is not online. mohamed122601
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08 Oct 2015 11:17 AM
wellllll some operations are classified like organizations we're not supposed to know about or when national guard is to obvious we send them in silently, so you can see the point ;)
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strepsels is not online. strepsels
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08 Oct 2015 11:17 AM
socom probably fps in rcl xdddd


#code ("add 1.2k |")
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GoBeingBanned is not online. GoBeingBanned
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08 Oct 2015 11:22 AM
nopls
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Tigerbacke is not online. Tigerbacke
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08 Oct 2015 11:23 AM
nonono
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mohamed122601 is not online. mohamed122601
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08 Oct 2015 11:26 AM
SF is bad k
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Tigerbacke is not online. Tigerbacke
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08 Oct 2015 11:27 AM
your bad
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Deltiq is not online. Deltiq
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08 Oct 2015 11:27 AM
Going to have to establish my opinion with you wholeheartedly.

It's insulting that you think SOCOM is superior to SF. SF has scrimmaged a multitude of agencies, and not a single one of them has won (RCL).

Claiming SOCOM is better than SF is like saying you could beat me in a game of chess having not played me before.

I humbly ask that you reconsider, and if you refuse, have SOCOM challenge SF to a scrimmage in RCL.

Claiming SOCOM is better than SF in lots of aspects, you might as well be saying this:
"SOCOM is superior to CIA, FBI, HLS, DIA, USMS, and more".

In fact, I think you made this with your interest has an ulterior, seeing how the vast majority of this is nullified and not true.

To each their own, I suppose.

"To liberate the oppressed"
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Tigerbacke is not online. Tigerbacke
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08 Oct 2015 11:30 AM
mohammad first of all socom is bad

scrimmage us

prepare u scrublords

u cant rcl

u are bad

just go die now
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mohamed122601 is not online. mohamed122601
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08 Oct 2015 11:30 AM
@Deltiq last time I saw a patrol of SF at LV, it was as law enforcement patrolling the bank, the exact opposite of a Special Forces worthy operation, SOCOM and SF have skirmished before and the record is 2-2. Most of the IC support this change, and if you really want to see it skype me USAMohamed122601 Ill show you some of the work SOCOM have done in LV
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Tigerbacke is not online. Tigerbacke
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08 Oct 2015 11:31 AM
hey socom dont even have a team what are you talking about lol
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Deltiq is not online. Deltiq
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08 Oct 2015 11:34 AM
If you are going to reply to me, do it with a worthy post, Mr. Congressman.

I want you to prove to me that SOCOM is superior to SF. As a matter of fact, I am eager to see you do this.

Considering how 1/2 of this post is your opinion, and the other is a quite obvious ulterior motive, it's revolting to see a Congressman such as yourself make these allegations with such a pathetic premise.

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dans59 is not online. dans59
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08 Oct 2015 11:36 AM
I died so hard when you said "SOCOM is stronger than SF". We'll happily scrimmage to prove you wrong. We'll go 80-10 on them.

You have no idea the things you are typing. Zeyad will veto this; I promise that.

SF is extremely originize and we're more powerful than the entire USM and its' branches in terms of combat.
You have not seen SF into action, bud.

SF scrimmage wins: http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=175753087

Bring your 'elites'--we'll spawn kill them in scrimmages too.
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GoBeingBanned is not online. GoBeingBanned
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08 Oct 2015 11:36 AM
SF, how would you feel about being merged into the military?
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dans59 is not online. dans59
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08 Oct 2015 11:38 AM
As for the military side of things, Zeyad deploys SF to wherever he thinks we need too; when USM can't get the job done. We get the job done. We're a reliable force.
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dans59 is not online. dans59
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08 Oct 2015 11:39 AM
If I was to voice my opinion, the military is a joke. We want no part of being apart of the military.

We were even miserable under HLS when Flammus was leading it. We unmerged than:
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Deltiq is not online. Deltiq
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08 Oct 2015 11:40 AM
I'll tell you this much, Mr. Congressman. Consider it courtesy, since I am a kind soul.

Your plan will backfire.

If you plan on having your way with SF, at least make statements that actually apply. Or don't, for all I care, after all more hilarity will ensue.
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mohamed122601 is not online. mohamed122601
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08 Oct 2015 11:40 AM
I was in support of merging you to the military and forming you as SOCOM but the previous TWO SF administrations were agaisnt it so you see what I have to do, I was ready to make you the main special operating force of USM and keeping you as a joint-agency if you weren't so hard headed but hey the offer is still up rather then the disestablishment, your call.
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GoBeingBanned is not online. GoBeingBanned
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08 Oct 2015 11:40 AM
If you think the military is miserable, merge with them and change that.
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RAZVANPAUL is not online. RAZVANPAUL
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08 Oct 2015 11:42 AM
I would love to see who made you Military Representative. Your last bills are regarding the Intelligence Community and the Military, both of which you have failed with your Black Ops. I highly suggest you tone down on this type of bills and focus on something else because you want your power back and what you did with it when you had it is cannot be described in words.. You are not well intentioned at all. One more bill like this and I am going to propose your expulsion. We are friends but you seem that you cant get out of the past and that affects our countries National Security, something I CANNOT let go through.

Absolutely Nay.
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mohamed122601 is not online. mohamed122601
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08 Oct 2015 11:43 AM
"when USM can't get the job done" LOL DYING RIGHT NOW, when has Zeyad ever tasked the military with anything? Ill get you logs of the last time Zeyad shouted something in USM and last time in SF as well as approval logs, you'll see he never deployed USM to do anything before calling SF. Believe what you want to believe but in all honesty, no one from the IC to Congress want you independent and we believe the military is you're best bet as supervision seeing as they see and approve your ideals.

Basically you have two options; Merge or Shutdown this won't backfire most congressmen support.
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RAZVANPAUL is not online. RAZVANPAUL
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08 Oct 2015 11:44 AM
You had it cannot be described in words*
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Joemikez is not online. Joemikez
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08 Oct 2015 11:45 AM
This is the stupidest bill I have ever seen. SF is one of the most active, but we haven't been patrolling LV as much due to major reforms and the fact that we have been out destroying a fake USA.
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Deltiq is not online. Deltiq
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08 Oct 2015 11:45 AM
This is sickening, you claiming this will pass with your rotten ulterior motives in play. You are so transparent, I am curious as to how the hell you even got elected.
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