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Re: If America would stop allowing people to abuse welfare

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FruitsZ is not online. FruitsZ
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30 Sep 2015 10:40 PM
and all that jazz and either remove or fix it

The debt would shrink

Make people work In this country

No one who isn't disabled shouldn't be sitting at home drinking his Cup of coffee waiting for that welfare check
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2uo is not online. 2uo
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30 Sep 2015 10:41 PM
I think that's a very idealistic and simple view on the issue, which probably wouldn't actually have to outcome you'd need/want it to.
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LeonidaslI is not online. LeonidaslI
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30 Sep 2015 10:41 PM
@2uo, i think...he's joking?
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FruitsZ is not online. FruitsZ
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30 Sep 2015 10:42 PM
Yes it would

This is literally the most realistic think out there
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david6006 is not online. david6006
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30 Sep 2015 10:44 PM
So what kind of people do you think use welfare?

I'd like you to list a criteria of people that are on welfare and don't deserve it.
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FruitsZ is not online. FruitsZ
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30 Sep 2015 10:54 PM
I just told you

People who don't have disabilities

Are fine and can work
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plenketen is not online. plenketen
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30 Sep 2015 10:54 PM
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DeathRanger1148 is not online. DeathRanger1148
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30 Sep 2015 10:56 PM
I think it's because we're too comfortable with being an obese country. I don't mean like a little fat, I mean OBESE. We buy too much food. Go to the YMCA america ffs. that's how to fix the debt
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david6006 is not online. david6006
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30 Sep 2015 10:58 PM
"People who don't have disabilities

Are fine and can work "

More specific please.

>Are fine and can work

People who come out of abusive homes (both adults and children) are pretty able to work, but they don't have shelter, food etc. Are these people ineligible for welfare?
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DeathRanger1148 is not online. DeathRanger1148
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30 Sep 2015 10:58 PM
"People who come out of abusive homes (both adults and children) are pretty able to work, but they don't have shelter, food etc. Are these people ineligible for welfare?"

mayb if they worked they could afford shelter
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david6006 is not online. david6006
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30 Sep 2015 10:59 PM
If they're paid 2 weeks after starting that's 2 weeks of no cash.

That is, if they can find a job if they smell of homelessness.
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2uo is not online. 2uo
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30 Sep 2015 10:59 PM
What about people who live in extreme poverty, where the jobs which are available are scarcely available and aren't sustainable
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FruitsZ is not online. FruitsZ
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30 Sep 2015 11:00 PM
^

You need to realize people come from other countries

Start with nothing and get up there a bit to be stable

You don't need to own rich parents or anything
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zeus022 is not online. zeus022
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30 Sep 2015 11:00 PM
My main thing is that they MUST show evidence that they are actively looking for a job to be on welfare

have it be on a time period

only give it to those who really need it.
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DeathRanger1148 is not online. DeathRanger1148
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30 Sep 2015 11:00 PM
"What about people who live in extreme poverty, where the jobs which are available are scarcely available and aren't sustainable"

work harder
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mcflopper is not online. mcflopper
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30 Sep 2015 11:01 PM
who cares about those people
who cares about you
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FruitsZ is not online. FruitsZ
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30 Sep 2015 11:02 PM
Move to places that does have a job then

There are jobs everywhere

People just don't look enough or they say "gee welfare is holding me up pretty good, I'll just stick with it and say I haven't found a job yet"
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Redsoxs4 is not online. Redsoxs4
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30 Sep 2015 11:02 PM
@Zeus

Which can be abused, such as now I'm pretty sure you don't have to have a job to be on welfare anymore.
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codeman992 is not online. codeman992
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30 Sep 2015 11:03 PM
FruitsZ is absolutely right. Do you realize anyone with a disability claim can apply for welfare. It's that easy.
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2uo is not online. 2uo
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30 Sep 2015 11:04 PM
Homeless children can't work because they have no guardian to sign wavers and what not/legal documents.

There are people and places where circumstances aren't ideal, and legitimately need welfare because the jobs they have cannot pay for minimal shelter, food, clothing, etc.

Although trying to force people to work by cutting them off, whether they truly need it or not is bound to cause turmoil.
And if it's only people with disabilities who get welfare, then that just increases the amount of people who are going to protest and revolt

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Pen54321 is not online. Pen54321
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30 Sep 2015 11:04 PM
Easier said than done.
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DeathRanger1148 is not online. DeathRanger1148
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30 Sep 2015 11:06 PM
@2uo, are you trying to justify people abusing welfare rn? lmao

He's saying that there are people well and able that COULD work but they are too fat and lazy to get off of their asses
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FruitsZ is not online. FruitsZ
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30 Sep 2015 11:06 PM
Homeless kids can't sign up for welfare...

Also they would most likely either be adopted or be at a adoption home, not all of them are on the streets dude.
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2uo is not online. 2uo
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30 Sep 2015 11:17 PM
"He's saying that there are people well and able that COULD work but they are too fat and lazy to get off of their asses"

Oh yeah I agree with that.
But that's not what he's saying with his 'solution'.

"everyone who doesn't have a disability" is what he portrayed it as
as if the only kinds of people who use welfare are those with and without disabilities.

Which is why I said what I said in my first post, in the first place.
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FruitsZ is not online. FruitsZ
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01 Oct 2015 02:39 PM
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