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maxthecrazy is not online. maxthecrazy
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30 Sep 2015 09:40 PM
uhm, America doesn't have the most technologically advanced Military in the world.


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Matthais5 is not online. Matthais5
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30 Sep 2015 09:41 PM
@max besides who? Israel?
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nintendowill941 is not online. nintendowill941
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30 Sep 2015 09:42 PM
"What the hell?

If we were to ever even fight these guys, it would be WW3

" I was talking about Iran and Russia"

Lol, as if scare tactics would work on russia? And we need excess funding to scare iraq? Are you kidding me? Lol this is why kids cannot vote.

But I can. :)"

You call me a kid I said Iran not Iraq (First off) Russia's military is only 1.5/3's the size of our military and they still use weapons from the 70's.

Plus, why even bother mentioning WW3, That's the exact oppisite of what scare tactics are supposed to do, they DETER, you dumbass.
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nintendowill941 is not online. nintendowill941
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30 Sep 2015 09:43 PM
I mean if you want WW3 to happen, that just proves my point that left wingers want to see the world burn.
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JercKharr is not online. JercKharr
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30 Sep 2015 09:44 PM
The deterrent is nukes, not excessive military funding you wing nut. God youre an idiot.
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nintendowill941 is not online. nintendowill941
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30 Sep 2015 09:46 PM
"The deterrent is nukes, not excessive military funding you wing nut. God youre an idiot."

Nukes are LAST RESORT WEAPON, I would rather fight a war on the ground than destroy population centers and cities across the world and expose entire countrysides to radiation

Then you call me a wingnut and idiot

You sir, are stupid
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nintendowill941 is not online. nintendowill941
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30 Sep 2015 09:48 PM
That is if a country decides to fight us instead of backing off, because having nothing but nukes and weapons that we used 10 years ago (seeing as this could be in the forseeable future) wouldn't work well, if any of our enemies modernize their military (like China)
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JercKharr is not online. JercKharr
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30 Sep 2015 09:50 PM
Have you ever heard of the term nuclear deterrent?

Thats why these countries dont war each other. Its not because of the damn military, its because of the nukes. Nukes are a last resort weapon, yes, but they are used as a show of force to PREVENT WAR HENCE DETERRENT.

You are the moron here. im done arguing with someone who hasnt even passed the 6th grade.
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nintendowill941 is not online. nintendowill941
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30 Sep 2015 09:52 PM
Lol ragequit, he obviously didn't read what I said. (eg "if a country decides to fight us instead of backing off")
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JercKharr is not online. JercKharr
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30 Sep 2015 09:53 PM
I want someone that uses logic to have a discussion with. Not a 6th grader who doesnt know jack.
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nintendowill941 is not online. nintendowill941
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30 Sep 2015 09:54 PM
You sound like a 6th grader honestly
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LordDrewster is not online. LordDrewster
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30 Sep 2015 10:02 PM
the autism on this thread is ridiculous

stop crying about soldiers who go poor after the military, first off it's AFTER the military. if you don't acquire a specific rank you don't get paid after decommission. that's like saying i quit mcdonalds as a fryer but i want them to keep paying and taking care of me, it's stupid. also, we spend more on our military then the next 10 countries combined, 7 of which are allies lmao. so the fact that you don't want to spend less on military while our entire infrastructure is as old as your mom is ridiculous and you should be ashamed of yourself. why have a military to protect something broken down?

also to the person who said we use tanks from ww2. LOL. that is all i will say about that.

to the person who said nuclear weapons are deterrents, they themselves aren't for defensive purposes, but they serve as a deterrent more than the chance we'd actually use them, so yes props to you.


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JercKharr is not online. JercKharr
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30 Sep 2015 10:04 PM
THANK YOU LORDDREWSTER.

Thats all that I need to say. He's ignoring the word >EXCESSIVE< and focuses on irrelevant topics that he has done no research on.
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TheStalinator is not online. TheStalinator
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30 Sep 2015 10:07 PM
Yes, we have the largest military on Earth.

In fact, we OVERSPEND on it.

We spend more money on defense than the next 25 countries combined, yet we still run out of money for essential parts of society, like healthcare, and fighting poverty.

It's ridiculous and you know it.
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nintendowill941 is not online. nintendowill941
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30 Sep 2015 10:14 PM
I'm trying not to get banned after getting three warnings in a row.

We're not running out of money for essential parts of society, fighting poverty is definitely a problem however healthcare is a different story because more left wing politicians don't really know how to handle it, because Obamacare sponges up more tax dollars than I imagined it would. To be honest, though I don't agree with social healthcare if it's done I want it done right

When I created this thread speaking about what happened after they were discharged from the military, they don't receive a preportionate amount of pay in the military for the work they're doing, minus the bills paid while overseas, they don't have enough money afterwards to really afford being betrayed by the VA like most veterans are.
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JercKharr is not online. JercKharr
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30 Sep 2015 10:16 PM
>I'm trying not to get banned after getting three warnings in a row.

Heh so my reports worked. Nice.

"We're not running out of money for essential parts of society"

Yeah because we totally arent trillions of dollars in debt as it is lol
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nintendowill941 is not online. nintendowill941
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30 Sep 2015 10:16 PM
Plus, I never said we had to use them but, I would like to keep the amount of nuclear weapons to a preportional amount considering the amount of destruction they can do.

Besides nuclear weapon manufacturing also costs a lot of money despite the fact that, I will admit, it is a more permanent deterrent.
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LordLancer is online. LordLancer
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30 Sep 2015 10:17 PM
we bought a huge billion dollar+ battleship that has a giant laser on it and it patrols a really odd area for a US Naval vassal to be patrolling
i think that's excessive and not needed
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nintendowill941 is not online. nintendowill941
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30 Sep 2015 10:18 PM
">I'm trying not to get banned after getting three warnings in a row.

Heh so my reports worked. Nice.

"We're not running out of money for essential parts of society"

Yeah because we totally arent trillions of dollars in debt as it is lol"

A good majority of that debt was actually caused by domestic spening by President Obama, not trade or defense.

and Who reports people these days, you should honestly not be on the c&g
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LordLancer is online. LordLancer
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30 Sep 2015 10:21 PM
the percentage he wants to cut on military spending really isn't that much
there are more important things to worry about internally for the time being

and until those things internally are further repaired then I think cutting spending on our military isn't such a bad idea
I'm sure he'll put the previous budget back into the military once internal issues are stabilized to a fair degree.
don't need a military force with the purpose of protecting freedoms when the freedoms are slowly being drained away from the inside out.
what our nation was founded on has crumbled.
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nintendowill941 is not online. nintendowill941
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30 Sep 2015 10:21 PM
"we bought a huge billion dollar+ battleship that has a giant laser on it and it patrols a really odd area for a US Naval vassal to be patrolling
i think that's excessive and not needed"

I'll quote you on that because a giant laser with the technology we have is pretty impractical.
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JercKharr is not online. JercKharr
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30 Sep 2015 10:22 PM
>A good majority of that debt was actually caused by domestic spening by President Obama, not trade or defense.<

That debt was here long before obama came along kiddo

>and Who reports people these days, you should honestly not be on the c&g<

The forums is not a place for rude behavior such as yours :)
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LordLancer is online. LordLancer
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30 Sep 2015 10:24 PM
not to mention under the obama administration:
dow jones when he took office was at 7,949 and now stands at 17,830
unemployment when he took office was at 7.8% and is now at 5.8%
gdp growth when he took office was at -5.4% and is now at 3.5%
deficit gdp% was at 9.8% and is now at 2.8%
consumer confidence was at 37.7 and now stands at 94.5

do tell me what you don't like about obama and his administration's part
and I hope you understand the role of the other branches of government
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Bellaz is not online. Bellaz
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30 Sep 2015 10:25 PM
i can't vote in the US because i'm british
but i totally would vote for bernie if i could
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nintendowill941 is not online. nintendowill941
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30 Sep 2015 10:25 PM
"the percentage he wants to cut on military spending really isn't that much
there are more important things to worry about internally for the time being

and until those things internally are further repaired then I think cutting spending on our military isn't such a bad idea
I'm sure he'll put the previous budget back into the military once internal issues are stabilized to a fair degree.
don't need a military force with the purpose of protecting freedoms when the freedoms are slowly being drained away from the inside out.
what our nation was founded on has crumbled."

Well, he did say something about increasing the tax rate which in turn will increase debt, and possibly deficit if he ends up doing something really stupid, so even if he cuts it by a little bit to fund that bill, it's going to end badly either way. (Now just keep in mind this is what i'm gathering from the situation correct me if i'm wrong.)

Now to fix things internally, we may have to repeal Obamacare and replace it with a better plan. (What that would be I don't know)

and the only reason that there's not much more freedom to stand on is left-wing federalism in itself.


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