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Re: @ VS/Lilly Haters, calling you out.

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victoria621 is not online. victoria621
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30 Sep 2015 03:57 PM
Hiya respectable people of the clans and guilds forum, and the degenerative part;

today i'm spending a probably intermediate-big effort to try and explain to at least (hopefully) some of you why VS isn't 'trash' and why Lilly is a good leader for us. Just to try and make everything easier to understand, my first paragraph will be based on VS and second on Lilly. If you're the type of poster who doesn't read and points out something that I already explained, i'm just going to ignore you. I'm prepared to lose a massive amount of respect to people unless they give me a smart argument. At least just scan over.

Over the couple of months since I've rejoined VS, you might've seen a couple of my forums, "VS is trash", and at first, we probably were. However, we actually took most of your suggestions and improved, despite this you continue to say VS is 'trash' in which we are not, we're decently good now. A lot of main points you guys say and which I will hdeeper into are;

> We are 'trash' - give us a reason to why we are, we've improved activity, demoted inactive HRs and promoted new active ones, thus improving activity and skill from trainings.

> We are 'unskilled' - yeah, probably a couple of months ago we were. But now with a new training plan we're prepared to say that every member that goes to a training comes out slightly improved than before, whether that be RCL, obby, swordfighting, SMG or our own guns. We also have in Stormtroopers (our elite division); BenBonez, Celestus, xNightFoxx, and our own home-grown members Reprove, tallroblox1, bluecheetah14, DutchPioneer who may not sound familiar but together with Ben, Celestus and Nightfox, we are starting to win more and more scrimmages.

> We are 'inactive' - We probably slightly were, we used to have 8-12 at training and now it's raised to 12-20, last week we had 26 at a training and raid. Also, the fact VS has stayed alive for 4 years is a pretty cool thing.

> We have a 'bad hicom' - alrighty, i'll love to dive into this one to explain! Lilly successfully has created a good hicom, and if you haven't seen above then you will not we've improved a lot, so how is our hicom back when we are infact improving?

Now, to give you all a proper insight into the work VS has improved on:
> higher activity
> more active HRs
> new reforms in departments
> new ranks, heads of departments
> demotion of inactive HRs, promotion of new HRs
> new members of stormtroopers (more tryouts)

This brings me to my second point... hmmmm.... I wonder who is probably the answer to this all? Oh yeah, Lilly is. In the end she is the one who looks over us all, gives us advice, answers questions and definitely sets a mark for activity to improve. She had a hand in demotion of inactive HRs (went by her for advice), definitely new ranks, new reforms, higher activity and skill as a result. Lilly and I had a bit of a discussion about C&G yesterday, and she empathizes with a lot of people hated on here, and it's really not fair on her.
Now, give me a moment to act a part of the degenerative side of C&G
'Hmmmm.. yeah maybe VS has improved a bit but Lilly didn't do anything definitely not even the new ranks!"
while a respectable person (aka Dystra) would say (as he did yesterday, and I quote):
'Anyways, VS is a pretty average clan. It's pleasing to see that it is still alive and kicking after all of these years. I'm glad to see you guys are improving.'
Pretty much to an insight of VSHR, Lilly is a result of most of these things, HRs only help with them.

So you guys will probably just ignore this thread and the details of it and not present to me a smart argument, in which I will probably ignore. If you actually give me an argument, I love to debate, so yeah, just get off Lilly's back about stuff. She notices you guys being pretty mean to her about it, she is not oblivious to the clan world.


vicky || lt. general VS
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Fardomoto is not online. Fardomoto
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30 Sep 2015 03:58 PM
Why post this, ignore them plz don't take this shat to seriously
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PhantomEssence is not online. PhantomEssence
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30 Sep 2015 03:59 PM
you do realize that we have to assume that everything you said is correct and accurate.

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victoria621 is not online. victoria621
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30 Sep 2015 03:59 PM
@Fardo
it's just to try and prove my point in which I was probably as you say, a tad too dedicated to :P

vicky || lt. general VS
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victoria621 is not online. victoria621
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30 Sep 2015 04:00 PM
@Phantom

well I hope it's correct and accurate, yeah, it is. I've seen VS over the few months and it's really growing in a good way as a result of some reforms made by Lilly (aka lt. generals, etc).

vicky || lt. general VS
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Fardomoto is not online. Fardomoto
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30 Sep 2015 04:00 PM
Also lilly seems cool I had her skype in 2012-2013 she didn't talk much but I guess she was funneh or something
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Gungrips is not online. Gungrips
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30 Sep 2015 04:01 PM
smHH!!!! haTers
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LordIntense is not online. LordIntense
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30 Sep 2015 04:01 PM
implying that xNightFoxx is good
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victoria621 is not online. victoria621
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30 Sep 2015 04:02 PM
@Fardo
Yeah, Lilly is a chill person imo and really nice, doesn't deserve the hate.

@LordIntense
ya
were't you like in ST though?

vicky || lt. general VS
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PhantomEssence is not online. PhantomEssence
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30 Sep 2015 04:03 PM
" Lilly (aka lt. generals, etc)."

yes, lilly is also known as lt generals.




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LordIntense is not online. LordIntense
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30 Sep 2015 04:04 PM
ya I was in st but i wasnt the active in vs :P
but im rejoin vs and get vsst back prob
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paul321321 is online. paul321321
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30 Sep 2015 04:07 PM
You don't need to post these kinds of things on C&G.
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Veloric is online. Veloric
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30 Sep 2015 04:10 PM

might give vs a shot

is community good?

#code print("Throwing freezers at people that need to chill.")
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victoria621 is not online. victoria621
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30 Sep 2015 04:12 PM
@Phantom
I meant as in an example of one of the recent reforms.
@Veloric
Skype chat is honestly a bit of a mess sometimes (with like 80 people, of course, but don't have to be apart of it), but in general we're a pretty cool bunch of people.

vicky || lt. general VS
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HarrySG is not online. HarrySG
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30 Sep 2015 04:13 PM
i personally think community is the one thing we never lack in, especially if you're in the skype chat
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Veloric is online. Veloric
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30 Sep 2015 04:13 PM

no im talking about team speak 3

is it active or only used for on duty things

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LordIntense is not online. LordIntense
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30 Sep 2015 04:14 PM
read pm
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shadowelliot2302 is not online. shadowelliot2302
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30 Sep 2015 04:14 PM
should be renamed to vortex dead security xd



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HarrySG is not online. HarrySG
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30 Sep 2015 04:15 PM
ts3 isnt even used honestly didnt know we had one
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ElSeregios is not online. ElSeregios
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30 Sep 2015 04:15 PM
idk. when i first joined VS.

i instantly got bored.

how would you convince me that VS is now interesting?



Mind games I tell you, MIND GAMES!
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HarrySG is not online. HarrySG
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30 Sep 2015 04:16 PM
well when did u first join vs, and what was so boring
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Veloric is online. Veloric
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30 Sep 2015 04:18 PM

well if ts3 is unused its not worth it lol

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ElSeregios is not online. ElSeregios
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30 Sep 2015 04:18 PM
holy. christ.

2 years ago.

i didnt even realize.

it was before the price floor.



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HarrySG is not online. HarrySG
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30 Sep 2015 04:18 PM
not trashing ur opinion but what makes ts3 so important
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ElSeregios is not online. ElSeregios
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30 Sep 2015 04:19 PM
nd at the time, you guys werent doing anything.



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