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Re: Would the world be better off with no government?

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shawnz98 is not online. shawnz98
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28 Sep 2015 09:24 PM
Government or no government, the people are screwed on a daily basis.

Except when the government screws you, you can't do anything about it. They are the "law"
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Slydexia is not online. Slydexia
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28 Sep 2015 09:25 PM
government was established to prevent communism
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EnmityOfTheDarkLord is not online. EnmityOfTheDarkLord
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28 Sep 2015 09:25 PM
No...we wouldn't.
The government is the only reason you probably haven't been shot yet.


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thebobx is not online. thebobx
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28 Sep 2015 09:25 PM
anarchy punk rawk revolution the government is evil
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Zephyrai is not online. Zephyrai
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28 Sep 2015 09:26 PM
governments are designed to both retain order (which, if people are brought up with a strong moral sense is irrelevant) and to create a hivemind of sorts
pool resources together and specialize the human race so that we can achieve greater things

not much different than an ant colony to be honest

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shawnz98 is not online. shawnz98
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28 Sep 2015 09:26 PM
"government was established to prevent communism"

But communism is a form of government, a very bad form of government in practice (theoretically it's ok)

"No...we wouldn't.
The government is the only reason you probably haven't been shot yet."

I'm not saying no government is the best idea, but can't the government legally come in your house, shoot you, and find a way to say you were a "terrorist" or something of the sort?
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Slydexia is not online. Slydexia
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28 Sep 2015 09:27 PM
communism does not count as a form of government because it exists to take control over the population and that is not what government is about
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EnmityOfTheDarkLord is not online. EnmityOfTheDarkLord
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28 Sep 2015 09:27 PM
@shawnz

Not without sufficient evidence.
I get the feeling you're stereotyping here, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.


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shawnz98 is not online. shawnz98
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28 Sep 2015 09:27 PM
"governments are designed to both retain order (which, if people are brought up with a strong moral sense is irrelevant) and to create a hivemind of sorts
pool resources together and specialize the human race so that we can achieve greater things

not much different than an ant colony to be honest"

Government would be fine if:
1. People were raised to respect each other and serve the common good, not serve themselves
2. The government was comprised of people who had other responsibilities, and weren't career politicians
3. The people didn't care about sports more than the government
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jetstriker25 is not online. jetstriker25
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28 Sep 2015 09:28 PM
no

i've had a phase like this too, before i won the victory over myself and loved Big Brother
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Dreamlike is not online. Dreamlike
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28 Sep 2015 09:28 PM
greeed is the root of al eveil!
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shawnz98 is not online. shawnz98
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28 Sep 2015 09:28 PM
"Not without sufficient evidence.
I get the feeling you're stereotyping here, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt."

If we are talking about government in general, I'm correct.
But it's getting to the point where if you some sort of doubt against you, the government can step all over you. Not kill you, but spending time in jail isn't fun either
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d4rk652 is not online. d4rk652
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28 Sep 2015 09:29 PM
"but can't the government legally come in your house, shoot you, and find a way to say you were a "terrorist" or something of the sort?"

I might be wrong,but I believe people like the police and government need a warrant from court to enter your house.
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Zephyrai is not online. Zephyrai
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28 Sep 2015 09:30 PM
"Government would be fine if:
1. People were raised to respect each other and serve the common good, not serve themselves"

impossible.

"2. The government was comprised of people who had other responsibilities, and weren't career politicians"

possible but you'd have to resolve #1 first
thus making this impossible

"3. The people didn't care about sports more than the government"

that's a problem with upbringing
too much importance placed on the wrong things
easily fixed

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shawnz98 is not online. shawnz98
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28 Sep 2015 09:32 PM
"I might be wrong,but I believe people like the police and government need a warrant from court to enter your house."

Well in many states, such as New Jersey, the police can search you, and possibly arrest you, if they find you "suspicious"

@zepyrai

then why dont we fix it
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Qwazilla is not online. Qwazilla
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28 Sep 2015 09:32 PM
Humans are like biologically hardwired to set up hierarchies and governments, so prolly not
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Zephyrai is not online. Zephyrai
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28 Sep 2015 09:33 PM
"then why dont we fix it"

#1 and #2 are unresolvable due to a fault directly within the human composite
essentially
no go

#3 is feasible but once again you're looking at a fault in the human composite
aka we have too much free time thanks to this system, and thus have no reall incentive to care about said system

anyways, i'm tired & going to get some sleep
hope i've gotten my ideas across

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shawnz98 is not online. shawnz98
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28 Sep 2015 09:34 PM
@Zephyrai

so, either way, we're screwed

nice
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