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| 25 Sep 2015 09:01 AM |
think about all the ideas they've ripped off: - lego - minecraft (terrain) - project spark (smooth terrain) - facebook (dont even get me started) - twitter (following, feed) - easter (just saying)
and then the users basically violate every copyright in existence
roblox = biggest ripoff in history |
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fleetcom
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| 25 Sep 2015 09:03 AM |
| if i make a mod for fallout giving me warhammer 40k armor how is that different from a guy making it on roblox or minecraft or etc? |
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fleetcom
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| 25 Sep 2015 09:03 AM |
| and how does that mean im violating a copyright. |
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| 25 Sep 2015 09:04 AM |
| It isn't, the players are the one ripping it off. |
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| 25 Sep 2015 10:07 AM |
The only thing you actually got correct is:
The rule violators you didn't talk about, and the players themselves who ripped off copy right things.
But personally I come from a belief system I willing left which doesn't care about copy right, so that would probably just be me.
I just say if you wanna do something, do it. People already most likely know what the real thing is from, so unless you are saying its your idea, I don't see why its copyright infringement. |
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ArabTrap
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| 25 Sep 2015 10:24 AM |
roblox isnt copying
their fans arent copying either
doesnt that mean people who earn money from let's say creating drawings of their favorite cartoon character and posting it on let's say deviantart count as copyright? |
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| 25 Sep 2015 04:26 PM |
im primarily talking about US law here
@fleetcom, on roblox you are sharing this material with the public. that is how it is different from your own private mods.
private mods are still (probably) infringing on intellectual property, but no one's going to know you're doing it unless you tell them. so there really isnt an issue there.
@arab, are you kidding me? have you been under a rock? roblox implemented these updates as other companies became popular. in essence, they were riding on the success of others by mimicking their ideas. what roblox is doing isnt illegal, but it is morally questionable.
"doesnt that mean people who earn money from let's say creating drawings of their favorite cartoon character and posting it on let's say deviantart count as copyright?"
- satires, parodies, critiques, reviews, educational purposes, and journalism are all considered fair use, generally speaking.
- i cant really answer your question without knowing the specifics of the situation.
as we can see, many roblox players simply seek to replicate already existing games and characters.
are they making fun of it? probably not. critiquing or reviewing? heck no. educational or journalistic... lmao.
and let's not forget people who upload decals/music they didn't create. id like to see a logical defense for that one XD
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| 25 Sep 2015 04:43 PM |
@blue, go ahead and enlighten us with your pure genius then.
try to produce a counter-argument that is even remotely intelligent in nature. except that you can't
(you'll say that you don't want to, but in truth that's just an excuse to hide your inherent stupidity lol. just saying i know that trick)
if im so wrong, then it should be easy to disprove what im saying |
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| 25 Sep 2015 04:56 PM |
hey
wrong forum get out
Join Achenar http://www.roblox.com/My/Groups.aspx?gid=2595655 |
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| 25 Sep 2015 04:59 PM |
"go ahead and enlighten us with your pure genius then."
*cringe* |
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| 25 Sep 2015 05:04 PM |
"lego"- they sorta set it apart but i kinda agree "minecraft (terrain)" no what are you talking about roblox came first, too "project spark (smooth terrain)" not really "facebook (dont even get me started)" i dont understand it has nothing close to facebook you idiot "twitter (following, feed)" not so much, it kinda is set apart. That means instagram, snapchat, and a million other social networks copy twitter because they have "followers" "easter (just saying)" What the hell are you talking about |
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| 25 Sep 2015 05:06 PM |
think about all the ideas they've ripped off: - lego Hey, who cares. Did you know ROBLOX used to basically be legos IRL and they had better stuff than legos, finally legos got sick of their ass and sued them. Now they are here. Still having better stuff. - minecraft (terrain) Yeah how many other games have terrain? Oh yeah almost every single game. You aren't calling out any other games that have a minecraft feel and almost nobody uses terrain. Minecraft is trash anyways. - project spark (smooth terrain) wtf even is project spark nobody even cares about them - facebook (dont even get me started) yeah how many other major game companies have a facebook and it's a website with communities how the hell can it not be similar to face book? - twitter (following, feed) yeah how many other major game companies have a twitter and it's a website with communities how the hell can it not be similar to twitter? - easter (just saying) ARE YOU SERIOUS LMFAO? HOW MANY OTHER GAMES HAVE EASTER EVENTS?
and then the users basically violate every copyright in existence who the hell are you the federal government? nobody cares
roblox = biggest ripoff in history it's a ripoff when you get terminated with lifetime OBC
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| 25 Sep 2015 05:29 PM |
1. Terrain is a ClassName for the Voxel system Roblox came out with. Now that that's cleared up:
Terrain is a voxel system. Minecraft uses a voxel system. Terrain came out when Minecraft was becoming extremely popular.
Put 2 and 2 together, folks.
2. If you've ACTUALLY PLAYED PROJECT SPARK, then you will understand how it and smooth terrain are very similar. Smooth terrain was released not too long after Project Spark was made known to the public. In this case, Roblox was watching Microsoft, and decided to make a pre-emptive move to compete.
Think about this for like 5 seconds. Project Spark is, in functionality, like Roblox, but it's more visually polished. It theoretically competes with Roblox for a share of the market. YES I KNOW IT ISNT EXACTLY THE SAME AS ROBLOX. IT DOESNT HAVE TO BE IN ORDER TO COMPETE WITH IT.
If you know anything about marketing, then you will see red flags when a goliath like Microsoft makes a move to steal from your market. You'd be stupid to ignore it.
3. Facebook. Look at a Facebook profile, then look at a Roblox profile. Switch between these a few times and tell me you can't see the resemblance...
If you really can't see it, I can get into more detail, but to me it seems fairly obvious in a side by side comparison.
4. Twitter. Fun Fact: Did you know that Roblox didn't always have a feed? And it didn't always have followers? And that communities could actually communicate without this feature?! Shocking. I know.
5. The Easter thing is just another example. One of the best known parts of Roblox: The Egg Hunt, is just a generic Easter event. This requires 0 creativity whatsoever. Just another stolen idea. Don't misconstrue what I'm saying: This is PERFECTLY LEGAL, but there is nothing original about it. |
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| 25 Sep 2015 05:30 PM |
| why are you playing it then |
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ArabTrap
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| 25 Sep 2015 09:45 PM |
"5. The Easter thing is just another example. One of the best known parts of Roblox: The Egg Hunt, is just a generic Easter event. This requires 0 creativity whatsoever. Just another stolen idea. Don't misconstrue what I'm saying: This is PERFECTLY LEGAL, but there is nothing original about it."
holy crap i have never seen anyone this stupid |
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| 25 Sep 2015 09:47 PM |
that moment when roblox has been around for a good 5 years before minecraft was out
its me goku! |
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| 25 Sep 2015 10:18 PM |
@arab, oh ok. let's just banter commentary without any explanation.
first, i infer that you're angry because I humiliated your pathetic response, which indicated that you did not understand basic copyright law. it's understandable. monkeys don't like being laughed at. but i will pretend that you're a reasonable human just for fun.
you must think that my easter argument is pretty stupid, right?
I will make this VERY simple so that you can understand it.
roblox did not invent easter (if you don't know this then I don't know what to say honestly)
roblox did not invent egg hunting, which is an easter tradition
roblox used the idea of egg hunting, WHICH THEY DID NOT MAKE. Thus, it was NOT their idea. That is all I am saying.
If you really think I'm stupid for saying that, then you might want to re-check your entire life. Seriously. |
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| 25 Sep 2015 10:39 PM |
"@arab, oh ok. let's just banter commentary without any explanation.
first, i infer that you're angry because I humiliated your pathetic response, which indicated that you did not understand basic copyright law. it's understandable. monkeys don't like being laughed at. but i will pretend that you're a reasonable human just for fun.
you must think that my easter argument is pretty stupid, right?
I will make this VERY simple so that you can understand it.
roblox did not invent easter (if you don't know this then I don't know what to say honestly)
roblox did not invent egg hunting, which is an easter tradition
roblox used the idea of egg hunting, WHICH THEY DID NOT MAKE. Thus, it was NOT their idea. That is all I am saying.
If you really think I'm stupid for saying that, then you might want to re-check your entire life. Seriously."
this is like saying roblox shouldnt do anything for christmas either
smh your logic is flawed |
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| 25 Sep 2015 10:42 PM |
You can't steal easter... it's a national holiday and different games use easter hunts or something similar to celebrate the holiday.
Also, facebook and twitter have ENTIRELY different formats. Roblox could not possibly copy both forms.
But while on that topic, roblox resembles mobile sites more than fb or twitter. |
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| 25 Sep 2015 10:44 PM |
| Also, smooth terrain is just like building a game such as halo or Mass effect or any regular game. It's a development tool not pattented by any other company, nor can it be. |
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| 25 Sep 2015 10:56 PM |
@arab, ok finally you're thinking about this
"One of the best known parts of Roblox: The Egg Hunt, is just a generic Easter event."
I want to draw attention to this sentence. One of the most popular part of roblox is... a holiday event?
what if star wars was mainly known for its Christmas special rather than the original content it brought to its genre?
the easter event makes me sick not because they host it, but because it's one of the best things they can come up with...
@rom, there are similarities to both fb and twitter. facebook and twitter are not mutually exclusive, nor are they polar opposites. once again, I recommend doing a side by side comparison between facebook and roblox profiles.
on the topic of smooth terrain, I understand what you're saying, but im mainly referring to the user interface. try project spark and you will understand how remarkably similar it is to roblox's smooth terrain tools. |
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| 25 Sep 2015 10:58 PM |
if it makes you sick then ignore it?
you dont have to play roblox if you dont want to
and frankly we'd be more than happy if you are gone |
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