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Re: America is falling and will continue to fall

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CoolJohnnyboy is not online. CoolJohnnyboy
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20 Sep 2015 12:23 AM
Unless the American spirit comes alive again

America these days is ran by a government that claims to help the people, and makes the people think that way, but in the end oppresses them so the American people can't do what we used to be great at: changing the world

People don't care about each other or what goes on in the world. People would rather watch the NFL game than help their neighbor Joe change his tires and would rather wait in line to get the new iPhone than wait in line at the nearest recruiting station if the United States was attacked by another country.

Everyone defines and judges each other by political views and physical characteristics.

The government is over regulating everything and people are being duped into believing that being oppressed and uncreative is safe over the "dangerous" inventiveness that made us great to begin with.

The moment people look at each other not through political views or physical characteristics, but as comrades in the game of life, and actually care about each other and what goes on around them, the United States would be able to claim "greatness" once more and not be challenged
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lmmy is not online. lmmy
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20 Sep 2015 12:23 AM
As it always has been, and always should be.

Thats just how america, strike that, the entire world works.
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CoolJohnnyboy is not online. CoolJohnnyboy
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20 Sep 2015 12:24 AM
"As it always has been, and always should be.

Thats just how america, strike that, the entire world works."

Why should a nation fall? Is it "inevitable"?

It's "inevitable" because no one tries to stops it, and lets it happen
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Joserioo is not online. Joserioo
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20 Sep 2015 12:24 AM
I have the slightest feeling this is going to turn into something bad.
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CatBoy1235 is not online. CatBoy1235
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20 Sep 2015 12:26 AM
true freedom is a bad thing
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Echirus is not online. Echirus
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20 Sep 2015 12:26 AM
I guess I'm dead!!!
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CoolJohnnyboy is not online. CoolJohnnyboy
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20 Sep 2015 12:26 AM
"I have the slightest feeling this is going to turn into something bad."

?
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Nickmaster101 is not online. Nickmaster101
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20 Sep 2015 12:26 AM
If you were more specific it would sound less like just another rant about how America "used to be great" and more like a sophisticated analysis on the problems America is facing and how this ties into its "greatness", or lack thereof.
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CoolJohnnyboy is not online. CoolJohnnyboy
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20 Sep 2015 12:27 AM
"true freedom is a bad thing"

True freedom is no government, which is not a good thing. But a strong and invincible government is not a good thing either
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CoolJohnnyboy is not online. CoolJohnnyboy
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20 Sep 2015 12:27 AM
"If you were more specific it would sound less like just another rant about how America "used to be great" and more like a sophisticated analysis on the problems America is facing and how this ties into its "greatness", or lack thereof."

I'm not going into detail. But all I'm saying is, is that if the attitude changed in America, many of the issues would have something done about them
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CatBoy1235 is not online. CatBoy1235
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20 Sep 2015 12:28 AM
"But a strong and invincible government is not a good thing either"

but is there any strong and invincible governments?
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Joserioo is not online. Joserioo
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20 Sep 2015 12:28 AM
Well you see, when you post something like this on OT, you never get good results.

Like a flame war
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CoolJohnnyboy is not online. CoolJohnnyboy
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20 Sep 2015 12:28 AM
"but is there any strong and invincible governments?"

In the sense that the people can't challenge the government, and have limited rights, yes.
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lmmy is not online. lmmy
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20 Sep 2015 12:29 AM
id literally rather have the infamous german dictator "hi-lighter" rise from the dead and team up with trump to start ww3 against russia and china than have bernie sanders win

lets just put that out there and see what happens
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derpman9999 is not online. derpman9999
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20 Sep 2015 12:30 AM
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Nickmaster101 is not online. Nickmaster101
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20 Sep 2015 12:30 AM
@lmmy

unfortunately there are people who actually think that
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CatBoy1235 is not online. CatBoy1235
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20 Sep 2015 12:31 AM
"In the sense that the people can't challenge the government, and have limited rights, yes."

revolution
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lmmy is not online. lmmy
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20 Sep 2015 12:32 AM
well sadly im one of them

seriously, socialism aint going to remove debt and "stop political incorrectness"

id rather have someone whos more focused on "wow we are broke as hell and china is messing with us as a result" than someone who wants to focus on things like guns and pollution
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Nickmaster101 is not online. Nickmaster101
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20 Sep 2015 12:35 AM
@lmmy

I don't know if you know this

but conducting genocide and engaging in a world war is expensive too.

would you seriously consider that mabye people who say they'd rather have a tyrannical dictator who engaged in mass murder as their leader than "person from x party" are helping partisanship and a lack of compromise thrive in America?
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CoolJohnnyboy is not online. CoolJohnnyboy
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20 Sep 2015 12:38 AM
"Well you see, when you post something like this on OT, you never get good results.

Like a flame war"

Oh.

Well, let's hope this doesn't go awry
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Clearest is not online. Clearest
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20 Sep 2015 12:38 AM
Bernie Sanders 2016
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penguinology is not online. penguinology
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20 Sep 2015 12:39 AM
This wouldn't happen if we would elect Donald Trump.
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PhantomDragonz is not online. PhantomDragonz
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20 Sep 2015 12:39 AM
"Everyone defines and judges each other by political views and physical characteristics."

you contradicted yourself by solving your own problem/flaming yourself

the united states military selects people who aren't like you
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CoolJohnnyboy is not online. CoolJohnnyboy
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20 Sep 2015 12:40 AM
"revolution"

That doesn't always work unless you have a strong nation backing you and/or the government your are fighting is at at least one huge disadvantage

@nick

USA was in the crapper before WW2 and that massive war is the main reason why the US is what it is today
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CatBoy1235 is not online. CatBoy1235
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20 Sep 2015 12:41 AM
"That doesn't always work unless you have a strong nation backing you and/or the government your are fighting is at at least one huge disadvantage"

do it like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuqGb2JHzLg
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