Seviro
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| 19 Sep 2015 12:38 PM |
| so you'd rather adhere to a dying ideology of a powerclan than have the ORIGINAL form of a clan that actually helps initiate people into the clan world? |
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Collin201
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SUGERDEW
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| 19 Sep 2015 12:40 PM |
| your forcing people into the clan world that arent ready with vip, they dont join because they want to join a clan they join to get vip |
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| 19 Sep 2015 12:40 PM |
I would rather SF be shutdown and memorialized like it was intended to be.
But hey, if people want to make it the new IE and toss it around for the next 5 months I dont think it will affect me that deeply. |
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| 19 Sep 2015 12:40 PM |
unfortunate reality is that alot of people dont like new players who dont have the same sarcastic meme elitist attitude that they have
they dont come cause they dont like the attitude, c&g doesnt like them because they dont have the attitude |
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Seviro
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| 19 Sep 2015 12:40 PM |
@sugar
>RAT
they manage to initiate new members and I know troves of people who started their career in RAT through VIP recruitment |
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| 19 Sep 2015 12:42 PM |
what seviro is saying is right
rat is a great place to start a career in because of how welcoming it is to its members
trying to start a career is sleet clan or sotiule force would be tough because you'd have to get used to the attitude
c&g makes fun of how inclusive rat is on its lgbt but it only serves to draw in new people
whos making fun of who in reality |
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| 19 Sep 2015 12:42 PM |
your forcing people into the clan world that arent ready with vip, they dont join because they want to join a clan they join to get vip
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We aren't forcing anybody. They have the right to leave the group whenever they feel necessary.
If the individual stays in the group, clans have the power to integrate these people into the clan-community. We don't force individuals to attend events, do the initiation course, or even POST on the wall.
These individuals are people (ordinary folk) on ROBLOX. With the power of VIP recruiting, we can begin making these ordinary folks apart of the clan community. More or less, we're bringing in a huge member base into the clan-world.
Now, with that being said. How are powerclans or other clans helping to expand and moreso innovate the clan world? How dare anybody say "VIP recruiting is bad" when it doesn't only help the clan, but help the clan-world?
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YShaarj
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| 19 Sep 2015 12:43 PM |
"so you'd rather adhere to a dying ideology of a powerclan than have the ORIGINAL form of a clan that actually helps initiate people into the clan world?"
Or maybe you can get up off your ass and recruit people the original way it was supposed to be done rather than trying to use a game to convince people to join. You don't need to be a "superclan" to bring people into the clan world. |
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Seviro
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| 19 Sep 2015 12:44 PM |
what contributed to the clan world decaying was the prevalent idea of elitism in powerclans that were so prevalent
we shamed superclans for being full of "noobs" and then outcasted anyone who wasn't "good" from our clans, eventually disregarding new members of clans altogether |
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Seviro
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| 19 Sep 2015 12:44 PM |
@Iso
you run a filter group, don't get me started lol |
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| 19 Sep 2015 12:44 PM |
Or maybe you can get up off your ass and recruit people the original way it was supposed to be done rather than trying to use a game to convince people to join. You don't need to be a "superclan" to bring people into the clan world.
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How did UCR (one of the first CLANS) gain members?
Kinglime's places brought attraction to his group - aka vip/game recruiting.
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YShaarj
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| 19 Sep 2015 12:45 PM |
| What's your point, Seviro? |
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Seviro
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| 19 Sep 2015 12:46 PM |
you're not recruiting the "way it was meant to be" or whatever you said, you're just choosing the cream of the crop and denying others
even the original idea of TAG wasn't to make a filter group, but to make an academy that would, theoretically, "filter" members through it so they would learn and become good members of TGI |
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| 19 Sep 2015 12:46 PM |
i still think the best way to recruit is by recruiting in game via rec centers or by ads
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YShaarj
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| 19 Sep 2015 12:47 PM |
| I recruit the way everyone else should recruit, by talking to people or using advertisements (I don't do that but I would do it) I don't con people into joining my group with "FREE VIP" to a game that isn't even relevant to my group. |
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Seviro
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| 19 Sep 2015 12:47 PM |
@justin
while that may be true, ads hardly work their worth the people you get from rec centers are just like us, going in and out of clans |
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SUGERDEW
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| 19 Sep 2015 12:48 PM |
| I was brought into the clan world through a power clan and a pm. I wasnt forced to join if i wanted benefits, i joined because i choose to create the benefits for someone else |
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| 19 Sep 2015 12:48 PM |
| iso, for you, how about you recruit people into your clan, and actually have your HR's put time into teaching the not so skilled recruitees instead of focusing on the already average skilled. |
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Seviro
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| 19 Sep 2015 12:49 PM |
@iso
I know your method of recruitment, but so far it including new people into the clan world hasn't been shown (at least as far as I can tell)
if you did that but had loose requirements on joining VOID, I'd agree with you |
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| 19 Sep 2015 12:49 PM |
| y saying, make it more open to the public, filter clans are not necessary for this. |
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| 19 Sep 2015 12:50 PM |
i joined WIJ a long time ago because indigo 1 hit the front page, and i wanted to be on the defending team.
whats wrong with that? it inducted me into the clan world as a kid and i enjoyed it |
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YShaarj
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| 19 Sep 2015 12:51 PM |
You don't know my methods of recruitment for 1
2, it does bring new people in
3. H I V E is considered a "superclan"
I would let it grow to 3,000+ if it did. |
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| 19 Sep 2015 12:53 PM |
You have to "apply" to enter the filtered group, it isn't entirely opened to the public.
But seriously throw away the requirements and make more skilled members, keeping the ones you have will grow stale and limited. and even producing like what, 50... 100, is not enough imo.
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Seviro
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| 19 Sep 2015 12:53 PM |
@iso
considering you used to explain it to me, I do know your methods of recruitment
sure, you may be right, but HIVE doesn't actively try to train the "new" members they obtain
the best are filtered from the lesser-so, and the good get into VOID with the "bad" being left behind |
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