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Re: Why can't we just call people what they want to be called?

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phoniex is not online. phoniex
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15 Sep 2015 03:16 PM
To steal a joke from John Oliver:

For about twenty years, we've agreed to call Puff Daddy "Puff Daddy", "P. Diddy", "Diddy", and then "Puff Daddy" again. And most people don't even LIKE him!

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15 Sep 2015 03:17 PM
LGB[T] flamewar incoming!!!

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i aghree with u OP


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Vineshroom is online. Vineshroom
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15 Sep 2015 03:18 PM
This sounds like the same old stuff from the LGBT community of tumblr. What's next, using their "preferred pronouns"? Getting killed if you don't pronounce them by ze?


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15 Sep 2015 03:19 PM
@Vine

I don't agree with threats of violence or any sort of unreasonanble overreaction, but I don't see how its so hard to just call them what they want to be called.

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15 Sep 2015 03:19 PM
@Vine:

Why -- with all due respect in your OTiness -- did you bring THAT up?! At least I gave a swift warning to the innocents.

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Vineshroom is online. Vineshroom
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15 Sep 2015 03:23 PM
"I don't agree with threats of violence or any sort of unreasonanble overreaction, but I don't see how its so hard to just call them what they want to be called."
It's hard to call them what they want to be called because they're a guy who wants to be a girl. It's sorta hard to remember "oh yeah, they want to be a girl!"


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phoniex is not online. phoniex
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15 Sep 2015 03:24 PM
@Vine

I can understand if you slip by accident or fault of memory, but I disagree with people trying to flat out attack the labels people give themselves.

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15 Sep 2015 03:26 PM
Well, my friend is LGB[T] and would flip out when I didn't call them a girl. They'd throw a fit and go offline, just because I forgot.


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15 Sep 2015 03:27 PM
@Vine

I can understand why he would be offended, but I'm not going to make any moral judgements on you, since you clearly didn't do it on purpose.

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15 Sep 2015 03:27 PM
*She, not he. Sorry about that.

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SlayaThaMan is not online. SlayaThaMan
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15 Sep 2015 03:29 PM
i probably wouldnt want to talk to someone who wants to be called "xe", "ze", or some other weird made-up pronoun tbh...
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15 Sep 2015 03:30 PM
@Slaya

Why not? Why are you judging someone purely by what pronoun they prefer to use to describe themselves?

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15 Sep 2015 03:30 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHA
AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
YOU'RE EVEN GUILTY OF IT


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15 Sep 2015 03:31 PM
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SlayaThaMan is not online. SlayaThaMan
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15 Sep 2015 03:37 PM
"Why not? Why are you judging someone purely by what pronoun they prefer to use to describe themselves?"

wanting to be called a pronoun that doesnt exist just sounds like a grab for attention or an impulse to be unique

i dont have a problem calling a guy "she" or a girl "he", but i'd feel like a knob calling someone some wacky word like "ze"

just keepin it 100
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phoniex is not online. phoniex
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15 Sep 2015 03:39 PM
@Slaya

The pronoun does, in fact, exist. Pronouns are part of language, and language can be manipulated at will. Even really stupid words like "Twerking" and "Nae" are technically part of language.

Also, who are you to make all these assumptions about a person purely because of one part of their character? Humans are very complicated creatures, my friend.

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SlayaThaMan is not online. SlayaThaMan
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15 Sep 2015 03:41 PM
look man i just dont wanna sound like some goofball goin "hey did you pick xis books up?" or "is zis food ready?"

its just silly
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phoniex is not online. phoniex
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15 Sep 2015 03:43 PM
@Slaya

Well, that's your opinion, but is there a problem with just doing it to respect others?

For instance, my grandmother is very religious and I get annoyed by her constant preaching to me, but I listen to it anyways because I respect her, not because I believe in the stuff she's spouting.

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15 Sep 2015 03:44 PM
hey man, my new pronoun is "xligxlog", can you refer to me as that from now on? that cool with you man??

thanks
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15 Sep 2015 03:45 PM
@Slaya

Sure. Excuse me if I slip up every so often. Tracking this thread for future reference.

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15 Sep 2015 03:45 PM
"hey man, my new pronoun is "xligxlog", can you refer to me as that from now on? that cool with you man??"

i respect xligxlog's opinions
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SlayaThaMan is not online. SlayaThaMan
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15 Sep 2015 03:46 PM
"Sure. Excuse me if I slip up every so often. Tracking this thread for future reference."

realistically though, if someone asked you to refer to them as that in person, would you do it
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phoniex is not online. phoniex
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15 Sep 2015 03:46 PM
@Slaya

I might have trouble pronouncing it, but I'd try.

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15 Sep 2015 03:46 PM
Snoop Dogg, Snoop Doggy Dogg, Snoop Lion. We've all respected his name, despite him being a sub-par rapper.


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