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| 12 Sep 2015 09:15 PM |
Cmon! You have time to mess around with site layouts but not deal with clothing copying
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| 12 Sep 2015 10:32 PM |
You have two options. 1. Report them. 2. Get over it. It's just clothing.
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| 12 Sep 2015 10:34 PM |
| Why get over it? Sometimes, it can be very irritating that the original creator can't do so. |
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Jman88s
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| 12 Sep 2015 10:35 PM |
It's clothing. What is there to worry about?
| doug dimmadome owner of the dimmsdale dimmadome | |
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| 12 Sep 2015 10:35 PM |
| Yeah, what if you spent 3 hours making a certain shirt and someone stole it. How would you feel? |
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| 12 Sep 2015 10:37 PM |
"What is there to worry about?" –––– That depends.
And Jman, no two other people can deal with it the way you can. |
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| 12 Sep 2015 10:39 PM |
If you can't handle getting your clothing copied, don't make clothing.
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bobslave
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| 12 Sep 2015 10:41 PM |
If I remember correctly, Clothing copying isn't even against the rules.
You face Jarraxus, Eredar Lord of the Burning Legion! |
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YOHIOloid
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| 12 Sep 2015 10:42 PM |
| If you can't handle getting your clothing copied, don't make clothing. [2] |
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| 12 Sep 2015 10:56 PM |
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That's like saying, if you don't want people robbing you for your groceries that you paid for, just don't buy them and starve. If you don't want people taking your crop's from your farm, just don't plant them and starve.
What I'm saying is, you're suggesting people shouldn't reap the benefits for which they paid or sowed. for. No one want's to pay for something and have it ripped away from them by someone else.
People pay for BC for benefits and uploading clothing are among those benefits. Why can someone just buy the benefits and just steal from someone else who also did? It's pretty much unfair for the provider of the benefit's to ignore these things. Sooner or later people will give up on buying the benefit's and or supplying the demand that people want.
CLOTHING is a main attraction on ROBLOX. Clan's and Clothing group's rely on designers to make uniforms and just normal clothes. No one want's to sit there for an hour after paying for benefit's to upload the shirt they spent an hour on just so someone else can come along and steal it and possibly make a bigger profit..
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YOHIOloid
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| 12 Sep 2015 11:01 PM |
kek heck no's main designer will not start crying like a baby if her clothing is copied. she takes the risk by giving it to us to upload.
if it hurts you so much that your clothing on a kids game gets copied then don't upload it. it's obviously too much for you.
this is not real life, this is a kids website, don't try pulling some shopping thing on me |
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| 12 Sep 2015 11:09 PM |
Are you autistic?
If clothing designers didn't have to pay to upload I would't care about copiers. Some clothing designers have the ability to DEVEX. they can trade their robux for real money. This isn't just a kid's website, it's also a platform for plenty of other things. You may pay money for your 15 robux but some people pay to upload. When ROBLOX added DEVEX they risked not only group's being able to be copyrighted but also designer's being able to devex and copiers stealing the work of someone else to get ahead. By the way, people can also steal games. People can also DEVEX off of games. People want to reap what they sow. If someone spends a year on a game and it get's stolen and get's famous off of the thief don't you think there are some unfair thing's within that? Especially if the original creator of the game paid for benefits that allowed them to create the game?
Clothing isn't just "Clothing" ROBLOX has to pay for space. Copiers mass upload and that drain's ROBLOXs' money. If somehow copying was stopped tomorrow, uploading would be one of ROBLOXs' least concerns. Designers are in much smaller number than copiers.
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| 12 Sep 2015 11:16 PM |
@Octobers What a great way to start a reply. |
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| 13 Sep 2015 12:53 AM |
Lol idc, he's clearly ignoring factors.
He's just looking at it from the side of someone who hasn't uploaded his own stuff before. If you're going to argue against stopping clothing copiers, look at it from two sides of the spectrum. |
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YOHIOloid
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| 13 Sep 2015 06:46 AM |
"He's just looking at it from the side of someone who hasn't uploaded his own stuff before." http://www.roblox.com/catalog/browse.aspx?CreatorID=58389337&IncludeNotForSale=false&SortType=3 anything under "Kitz" is my creation in some way, considering that ipaperkitten is my dumb alt for "creating clothing"
le starting your argument with something like "are you autistic" is basically telling me that you are the one not seeing this from two sides of the spectrum and you're probably at the highest point at the autism spectrum.
this is the internet; a lot of bad stuff goes on around here, and it's pretty obvious that you aren't able to handle yourself here considering pixels make you rage. i take a risk uploading anything, and it is a risk i can handle if it happens. i would still address the one who copied my clothing item [in a polite fashion] but i would not start having a tantrum over it. clothing copying is not against the rules and it isn't for a good reason. honestly my clothing has been accused of being copied before but it was just some kid who didn't realize that kitz [me] had given the group owner [also me] to upload clothing while crediting her wow that must have been lots of computer transfers!!111 meanwhile "If someone spends a year on a game and it get's stolen and get's famous off of the thief don't you think there are some unfair thing's within that?" note that stealing is a game is AGAINST THE RULES. its punishment is AUTOMATIC DELETION. clothing copying is NOT.
devexing your stuff from clothing making is rarely efficient, so don't use that as an argument. i'm pretty sure the only two designers which can use it often due to their popularity are jalki or ioozi and other designers can only use it now and then since they don't get that much stuff. but either way, most of the designers that have enough money from clothing designing to devex it aren't even using their own content. most designers, period, are not using their own stuff no, they are not copying other people's clothing on roblox- they are taking content on the internet that is not theirs and editing it onto the roblox clothing template. that is stealing work, most of which is copyrighted. does anyone address this? no, it's all about money. you're upset over your le precious virtual currency that you can ONLY DEVEX when you have a lot of it. and even then, that isn't much almost all designers use someone else's content taken from the internet in one way or another, and do they credit? no. they wouldn't bother. i might hate grotesquette in general but i do respect her for the fact a lot of her clothing is drawn and rarely contains content taken from other sites. but every single smart or long-time designer will not start crying over clothing copying, regardless if they are google images photoshoppers or not. they take the risk when they upload. if you cannot handle the risk, do not become a designer. if you will threaten people with reports if they take your content and you are unaware false reporting is against the rules (keeping in mind that clothing copying technically is allowed), then do not upload.
yes, you need to pay for BC to upload, but uploading clothing is NOT the only feature that BC gives you. if you're buying BC to only upload, you're doing it wrong. also the last main report war i saw over copied clothing (where one person was telling another that he copied one of his clothing, which he did, and was claiming it as his own and stuff), both users were banned. why? for arguing. nothing regarding the clothing was moderated. why? IT'S NOT AGAINST THE RULES. |
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| 13 Sep 2015 06:51 AM |
It's your problem if your clothes get stolen. In most cases the copier doesn't sell the shirt but keeps it for him/herself
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| 13 Sep 2015 07:13 AM |
| If it isn't against the rules it should be |
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YOHIOloid
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| 13 Sep 2015 07:16 AM |
"If it isn't against the rules it should be" no, it shouldn't if most clothing on ROBLOX is using content that does not belong to the designer, their clothing is using stolen content. |
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| 13 Sep 2015 08:28 AM |
"if most clothing on ROBLOX is using content that does not belong to the designer, their clothing is using stolen content."
I hope you realize that not all clothing contain stolen content. There are professionals designers on Roblox who started from SCRATCH to their best designing skills.
But it still falls like the corrupted moderation on games, it gets stolen, the copier claims it as his own and everyone falls for it. |
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| 13 Sep 2015 08:28 AM |
| It's not against the rules. |
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| 13 Sep 2015 10:32 AM |
If a designer uses clothing from the internet to make clothes so what. It's a completely different thing now, it has shading and plenty of other edit's that no longer makes it a shirt from that brand. Now if I made a clothing company in real life selling someone elses clothes then I can understand your criticism.
But plenty of designers go from scratch and I myself have done the same, and I don't like people taking my stuff. Like I said, if I didn't have to PAY MY MONEY to design on ROBLOX I wouldn't care about copiers. Only BCers can upload clothes meaning 9/10 they will put what doesn't belong to them on sale. I also mentioned that uploading costs ROBLOX money, and they LOST A LOT of it trying to quell the copying and uploading coming from the NBC'ers. Now what the NBCers are doing is buying ROBUX making a group and spamming thing's that belong to another player. A shirt from real life made on ROBLOX isn't grounds for copy right, if it were most designers would be getting sued right now. Anyways, copying should be against the rules. If ROBLOX is willing to ban someone for stealing a game why can't they do the same to someone stealing clothing, it belonged to another player did it not? If you want to use the argument of "It belongs to ROBLOX" then ROBLOX shouldn't have a problem with game copiers either. |
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| 13 Sep 2015 11:50 AM |
"I hope you realize that not all clothing contain stolen content. There are professionals designers on Roblox who started from SCRATCH to their best designing skills." "i might hate grotesquette in general but i do respect her for the fact a lot of her clothing is drawn and rarely contains content taken from other sites." -me also there's nerds like 2p54 who do the same thing and ipaperkitten [not me totally]
"If a designer uses clothing from the internet to make clothes so what. It's a completely different thing now, it has shading and plenty of other edit's that no longer makes it a shirt from that brand." listen up, kiddo if it's not your content, it's not your content. period. no "but"s or "so what"s. using copyrighted content to make clothes on ROBLOX and getting currency from it and using devex on it is VIOLATING COPYRIGHT.
"But plenty of designers go from scratch" don't you mean like 7 i can only come up with three designers that do original stuff completely from scratch
"and I don't like people taking my stuff" then don't upload it if it offends you that someone did something that isn't against the rules.
"Like I said, if I didn't have to PAY MY MONEY to design on ROBLOX I wouldn't care about copiers. Only BCers can upload clothes meaning 9/10 they will put what doesn't belong to them on sale." if you only buy BC to upload, then you're wasting your money. design for a group and get a BC high rank to upload for you.
"I also mentioned that uploading costs ROBLOX money, and they LOST A LOT of it trying to quell the copying and uploading coming from the NBC'ers." users without membership cannot upload.
"Now what the NBCers are doing is buying ROBUX making a group and spamming thing's that belong to another player." users without membership cannot put clothing for sale.
"A shirt from real life made on ROBLOX isn't grounds for copy right, if it were most designers would be getting sued right now." Frappe used to be Starbucks IRL Starbucks put a copyright claim on the group You can get in trouble if you make money from someone else's product
"Anyways, copying should be against the rules." kek no it shouldn't
""If ROBLOX is willing to ban someone for stealing a game why can't they do the same to someone stealing clothing, it belonged to another player did it not?" i think roblox won't bother because a [popular] game is almost always 100% the product of the creator and a [popular] clothing item is rarely made from scratch. there is a difference.
"If you want to use the argument of "It belongs to ROBLOX" then ROBLOX shouldn't have a problem with game copiers either." a [popular] game is almost always 100% the product of the creator. a [popular] clothing item is rarely made from scratch. let's just take loleris, popular dev, and ioozi, popular clothing creator. Loleris; Game dev -stuff made from scratch, some from other people's help but he has permission to use that content [it might have been made for that game specifically]. - credits said assistance iOozi; clothing designer -99% of her content comes from google images -99% of her content is photoshopped images - said images are mostly copyrighted. - she takes ALL credit.
in other words i have disproved/invalidated your arguments repeatedly i would suggest you stop trying. |
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| 13 Sep 2015 01:08 PM |
a [popular] game is almost always 100% the product of the creator. a [popular] clothing item is rarely made from scratch. let's just take loleris, popular dev, and ioozi, popular clothing creator. Loleris; Game dev -stuff made from scratch, some from other people's help but he has permission to use that content [it might have been made for that game specifically]. - credits said assistance iOozi; clothing designer -99% of her content comes from google images -99% of her content is photoshopped images - said images are mostly copyrighted. - she takes ALL credit.
An image of something isn't copyrighted. Simply uploading pasted images into different dimensions of a ROBLOX clothing template isn't stealing copyrighted things. Taking the actual clothing from the company and advertising it and saying it's yours IN REAL LIFE would be grounds for a lawsuit.
""If ROBLOX is willing to ban someone for stealing a game why can't they do the same to someone stealing clothing, it belonged to another player did it not?" i think roblox won't bother because a [popular] game is almost always 100% the product of the creator and a [popular] clothing item is rarely made from scratch. there is a difference.
If there is a difference please provide it, plenty of games and group's take information or imitate thing's from real life. Please apply that same logic to developers and group creators.
"A shirt from real life made on ROBLOX isn't grounds for copy right, if it were most designers would be getting sued right now." Frappe used to be Starbucks IRL Starbucks put a copyright claim on the group You can get in trouble if you make money from someone else's product
It's not their product if it's an image of the product on a virtual game that has been edited thoroughly. It's like saying, "Someone took a sample of my song edited it and put it into their own song, that's grounds for copyright". No if it's been completely edited and changed from what it was before it is no longer that sample. If a developer of a game put's something in their game that may belong to a writer of a show of some sort is that grounds for the developers stuff to be stolen or copyrighted? You tell me.
"Now what the NBCers are doing is buying ROBUX making a group and spamming thing's that belong to another player." users without membership cannot put clothing for sale.
They were able to for years, ROBLOX put a stop to it about a month ago. It was draining ROBLOX of unnecessary money that didn't need to be spent on people uploading thing's that aren't even theirs. If Copying were to be stopped ROBLOX would have less money to spend on ROBLOX players uploading due to the small number of actual designers.
"and I don't like people taking my stuff" then don't upload it if it offends you that someone did something that isn't against the rules.
Just because it isn't against the rules right now doesn't mean it should be allowed. It's a ridiculous argument, "Murder isn't against the rules so I'm going to allow my city's civilians to decimate each other until I decide it should be a rule not to murder".
"But plenty of designers go from scratch" don't you mean like 7 i can only come up with three designers that do original stuff completely from scratch
Designers do create thing's from scratch, pasting images on these drawn templates no longer make them what they used to be which are images and images of a shirt are not ground's for copy right.
"If a designer uses clothing from the internet to make clothes so what. It's a completely different thing now, it has shading and plenty of other edit's that no longer makes it a shirt from that brand." listen up, kiddo if it's not your content, it's not your content. period. no "but"s or "so what"s. using copyrighted content to make clothes on ROBLOX and getting currency from it and using devex on it is VIOLATING COPYRIGHT.
Like I've said before, an image is not the same as a physical product the company has produced. PASTING OR DRAWING some Jordan 12's doesn't mean your taking the product for your benefit you're taking an image of it and pasting it. If someone were to take some Jordan 12's and advertise their website and sell the Jordan 12's as if it were their own then sure it's Violating Copyright. BUT A SIMPLE image is not the same as the actual product that you hold in your hand.
Developers incorporate many thing's that do not belong to them originally and upload them onto games that are on ROBLOX but you really don't seem to have a problem with that do you? At the end of the day making a retexture or pasting an image onto a template and editing it doesn't mean your breaking copy right.
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