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Re: Frost Legion Raid on Skill Nation [Results]

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eminemrocks93 is not online. eminemrocks93
Joined: 04 Nov 2011
Total Posts: 12992
02 Sep 2015 07:37 PM
Well hello everyone! Today FL decided to raid Skill Nation, a fellow sword clan within the SCC, this of course was practice for our war. What we did not expect, will be shown in the video's. We were expecting a good and honest raid. But instead SN's leader pulls bs and makes excuses for raid to be over rather then enforcing the rules and blames FL for everything.

Video #1; FL randomly dying at term: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3I4JwN3lbY&feature=youtu.be

And then what their leader decided to do next made me and my fellow comrades die of laughter.
Video #2; idiot leader being an idiot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CczWjF-zD9A&feature=youtu.be

He was unable to provide any proof of any FL exploiting/being invisible and continued to claim that FL is a trash clan that does nothing but exploit and glitch.

Skill Nation is bad and I feel sorry for every member in that clan.

And then Skill Nation declines FL's war. Well kind of glad, still got to show how much of an idiot SN's leader is without even trying. And I don't have to deal with a bad clan anymore. So gg.

-Eminemrocks93
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toooony is not online. toooony
Joined: 10 Apr 2013
Total Posts: 115
02 Sep 2015 07:43 PM
Roses are red violets are blue SN is trash and their leader is to.


toooony Council of FL (3ic)
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IITheKingII is not online. IITheKingII
Joined: 16 Dec 2013
Total Posts: 1352
02 Sep 2015 07:45 PM
support

Kicked me for whispering to the leader "yo hows life, remember me BRO"

SN is bad
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Zaxurax is not online. Zaxurax
Joined: 14 Apr 2014
Total Posts: 223
02 Sep 2015 07:45 PM
@toon nice one, lmao
Support.
Hail FL.
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Altolop is not online. Altolop
Joined: 13 Jun 2011
Total Posts: 52
02 Sep 2015 07:46 PM
Ready for more?? Well here you go! An entire passage of messages sent by upbeatkiller himself directly to me! This is in order from first message to reply to second message to reply and so on. Enjoy!
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On 9/2/2015 at 7:18 PM, Altolop wrote:
Funny, you think Skilled Nation is good yet you tell us that we have hackers and exploiters in our raid. And yet you say we have Glitchers too! When you can just ban the glitchers! You think you are skilled? You are soo wrong. Try raiding us. I dare you.

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On 9/2/2015 at 7:27 PM, upbeatkillerboy wrote:
Fl was caught glitching 4 times. I had said it multiple times that it as prohibited! If you would read the rules it would solve all of these issues. Don't you realize that the invisible was one of several exploits or things you guys did to win unfairly that is against the rules? He was invisible for 8 minutes. Also everytime FL raids the fort lags and people flame a lot. RB and SS have raided once or twice and no issues EVER!! This is the thing, FL causes lag either with exploits or overloading the server with glitches like invisiblity somehow. It never happens with other defenses. Spawn killing and spawntrapping to the point we can't get out is also prohibited. Also spamming the server chat is prohibited because you can't command your troops and it is annoying and also creates lag. I gave eminem admin to see we weren't AAing when you guys complained, yet when I kicked someone everyone comeplained unlike me just agreeing to it. You were winning and outnumbering so why complain and cheat? It's honestly kind of sad. I will waste no more time against FL. You guys complain and break too many rules. Not just rule breaking by not following them but by exploiting. Kind of pathetic. Honest you should join Skill Nation or FL.

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On 9/2/2015 at 7:29 PM, Altolop wrote:
What makes you think it was FL's MEN that were exploiting?? Because I know that FWC was with us. Yes, granted Poker was spaming and we could not do anything about that. But not a SINGLE FL member was exploiting.

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On 9/2/2015 at 7:33 PM, upbeatkillerboy wrote:
Poker spammed yes. Also the guy that was invisible was who? Wasn't he FL? And also if we were to war on the 14th allies are prohibited. Why did you bother calling allies for this? Funny how we don't call any and we get called trash for being independent. And I believe that it is FL's because the past 3 or 4 times FL has raided it has resulted in the same issues except the spam. Also this raid I asked for because eminem was begging for war. I said if the issues happen this time we won't war. And they did.. So wouldn't he think about oh.. maybe we should do only FL v SN just to make sure exploit doesn't happen and to prepare us better for the upcoming war? Or is he too autistic? I'm sorry, but your argument is not valid and calling us out for saying you guys had exploiters on your team is complete ignorance.

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On 9/2/2015 at 7:34 PM, Altolop wrote:
That guy that went Invisible was NOT FL. Not once have I seen a SINGLE FL member ever exploit. ALSO, We never called for FWC, FWC kinda just came.

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upbeatkillerboy wrote at 9/2/2015 7:35 PM
Well from everything I find in forums, other people, and on youtube says FL is bad and exploits. Sorry if its wrong but from what I've seen it is very much true.

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End of all Messages so far. Sad. Just sad. By the way, Hail Frost Legion!


-Altolop Frost Legion Frost Legionary
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Flurcium is not online. Flurcium
Joined: 14 Jun 2012
Total Posts: 10188
02 Sep 2015 07:47 PM
If King1991 came back would you give him HR?
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aheadbeavweel123 is not online. aheadbeavweel123
Joined: 18 May 2012
Total Posts: 764
02 Sep 2015 07:52 PM
I noticed they said Ken was invisible yet I SAW HIM RIGHT THERE AT TERM WITH US.
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IITheKingII is not online. IITheKingII
Joined: 16 Dec 2013
Total Posts: 1352
02 Sep 2015 08:17 PM
SN IS BAD

COME FIGHT US
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littlemip is not online. littlemip
Joined: 29 May 2013
Total Posts: 222
02 Sep 2015 08:21 PM
Apparently 3 members of FL glitching means everyone in FL does. 0 members exploited. 1 member spammed. 0 trash talked. Honestly, this is one of the worst leaders in any clan.
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littlemip is not online. littlemip
Joined: 29 May 2013
Total Posts: 222
02 Sep 2015 08:24 PM
Alt, did he really say he saw FL exploiters on youtube? Ask him what the names of the vids are and what people told him we exploited.
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gage1149 is not online. gage1149
Joined: 06 Nov 2010
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02 Sep 2015 08:37 PM
SLAYYY
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Dan101Designs is not online. Dan101Designs
Joined: 06 Apr 2013
Total Posts: 570
02 Sep 2015 08:37 PM
Upbeat keeps talking on and on about FL exploiting, glitching, and spamming. There is only accusations about FL exploiting, no proof whatso ever. On the other hand we have video of a SN either LSing or using an exploit that allows invisibility. Glitching was a definite problem during the raid, but let's be honest a lot of people glitch. It is reason to kick and if continued by the same person ban them, but it is no excuse for calling an autowin and calling a group bad. (Also @upbeat, glitching doesn't lag your an idiot if you think it does.) Spamming was done by a single person on the FL team, not the team as a whole. You also claim that FL called allies, but if you look in the videos at one point I scroll down and show the raider leaderboard, which will show everyone who was there. If you look FWC wasn't there, you may find people that are in FWC but they are in FL too. For example Pyro is FWC, but is also active in FL and is a glacian immortal.
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upbeatkillerboy is not online. upbeatkillerboy
Joined: 10 Jul 2010
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02 Sep 2015 08:37 PM
@Eminem You guys are honestly pathetic. Exploiting is ridiculous and you only showed the things that we responded to not what caused our actions. Quit covering up your flaws and inability to lead a group successfully by showing bogus stuff. You guys were invisible, spaming, glitching, flaming, threatening, complaining, speed hacking, and exploiting. Every time I saw someone glitch and was able to see their name I kicked them and reminded using :H that is was prohibited in our fort. All you guys did was say we were trash because we obey our rules and don't allow glitching. Then the speed hacker started. I banned him. Then an invisible guy at the terminal which your OWN member told me the name of them doing it so I banned them. We were threatened, flamed, complained about, and spammed by a guy who glitched and I kicked, therefore I banned him. Honestly, you guys are just corrupt.
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aheadbeavweel123 is not online. aheadbeavweel123
Joined: 18 May 2012
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02 Sep 2015 08:42 PM
Then tell us, which member told you?
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aheadbeavweel123 is not online. aheadbeavweel123
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02 Sep 2015 08:42 PM
And also we would like your evidence for us "exploiting" when you never believed us that your members LS'ed/invisible hacked. Good job....
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aheadbeavweel123 is not online. aheadbeavweel123
Joined: 18 May 2012
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02 Sep 2015 08:44 PM
Complaint about our members= BAN RIGHT AWAY
Complaint about your members= Ignores and says they would never do that.
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Enginize is not online. Enginize
Joined: 28 Oct 2014
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02 Sep 2015 08:50 PM
lol this is too funny...
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littlemip is not online. littlemip
Joined: 29 May 2013
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02 Sep 2015 08:52 PM
Please quote our trash talk and who did it. Please give us evidence of invisibility. Please give us evidence of speed hacking. Only 1 person spammed in our group and you banned 2 of our members for glitching when they glitched once.
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eminemrocks93 is not online. eminemrocks93
Joined: 04 Nov 2011
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02 Sep 2015 08:54 PM
Proof of any of the exploits? Like if you watch our video's we show you that FL dies randomly at term. Speed hacker? You got any proof of this as well? You were kicking people and banning people without a single ounce of proof. Yet when we start dying randomly you just blow it off like its nothing. You banned a guy for glitching and then kicked others for "glitching" yet he was right next to another member and did not glitch. I saw him and he wasn't glitching.




And inability to lead successfully? You're the biggest hypocrite I've ever seen. You talk so much about how we're bad but you need 15-20 minute warnings to defend, you're base lags, you blame everything on us for exploiting? Yet we had 8-9 people die randomly at term and no one was around. Amazing!
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littlemip is not online. littlemip
Joined: 29 May 2013
Total Posts: 222
02 Sep 2015 08:54 PM
Besides, we never called you trash until you said "We aren't waring this trash" So basically you called us trash first.
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dbafguy is not online. dbafguy
Joined: 24 May 2013
Total Posts: 2199
02 Sep 2015 08:56 PM
did fl have bad kdr's? and sn u pull bs if this is true


so what happened wass......nvm
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IITheKingII is not online. IITheKingII
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02 Sep 2015 08:56 PM
war us already sn
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DESTlN is not online. DESTlN
Joined: 05 Jul 2015
Total Posts: 2360
02 Sep 2015 08:58 PM
I died randomly at term. Amy saw that.
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eminemrocks93 is not online. eminemrocks93
Joined: 04 Nov 2011
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02 Sep 2015 08:59 PM
FL had like 280-208 deaths. Had term at 900 before he kicked us all for "breaking the glitching rules and other rules"
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upbeatkillerboy is not online. upbeatkillerboy
Joined: 10 Jul 2010
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02 Sep 2015 09:01 PM
@above, Have you even watched the video? I said Alto aka the one who posted my messages with him told me in a whisper. I'm sorry I don't record, but that is pathetic. First of all during the spam we couldn't communicate about what poker did nor could we say about the other guy I banned for glitching.. He glitched to the point where he got past the SN team only door and was sitting in our spawn. I only kick for glitching. All of the flaming and spam led me to just calling off the raid and getting you guys out of there. The only way to communicate was :m because of the spam and saying you guys are trash, exploiters, and cheaters is based on multiple things or you just have a bunch of bad luck and haters. Here are my reasons:

1. SN during our new era have been raided by RB and some other groups a few times. I believe SS even raided us. Yes we lost I admit so don't say only reason I had no issues with them was because we won, but we didn't lag or freeze at all like we did during the 3 or 4 times you raided we had lag, freezes, and whole server timing out at every defense! Also the other groups had like 1 glitcher and I kicked and no complaints. They read the rules to begin with so they knew what do to. Ever think of doing that?

2. Someone was invisible. It was a guy that I banned in video and said he was invisibe, not going back to look at his name. Your own member Alto said he was to me in a message and we already knew someone was but didn't know who. If it wasn't him I don't really care because it helped us out in the long run by giving you guys 1 less member to accomodate for the invisible kills/player, but I believe he was because in the recording Dan scrolled on the leaderboard and it said his name and he was 8-1. SN isn't amazing by any means but we aren't so bad to the point people 8-1 so easily when they just joined the game and aren't spawntrapping or using a mountain advantange point. Also when I banned him the issue quit happening.

1 last thing I'd like to add is when unending in the video was supposedly LSing. I gave eminem admin so he could check logs and if he wanted to he could of banned unending and since you were recording you had proof. Between my focusing and commanding my team along with the chat and spam I didn't see the post about unending LSing, during the recording the chat stayed long enough but in the event SN chat was blowing up. He should of banned him or message me if there was an issue. Also I asked you to raid today since you were begging to war us and I said because of connection/exploit/server issues we can't; I said to raid us and if it happens again we won't war. It happened so we don't war. And if you claim your guys don't cause it then why did you call allies? If you don't cause it then maybe your allies do? Ever think of that? Would of been easy to tell if it was SN or FL, but now we don't know if it was the allies or not. I only had SN with me and you said allies weren't allowed in war. Funny how you called allies yet you should be preping for the war which has no allies. And you still call SN trash yet you left out all of our issues and us getting killed randomly when no one was near us and your 24/7 flames along with the fact that we didn't use allies like I said.
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