generic image
Processing...
  • Games
  • Catalog
  • Develop
  • Robux
  • Search in Players
  • Search in Games
  • Search in Catalog
  • Search in Groups
  • Search in Library
  • Log In
  • Sign Up
  • Games
  • Catalog
  • Develop
  • Robux
   
ROBLOX Forum » Club Houses » Clans & Guilds
Home Search
 

Re: [USA] INDICTMENT

Previous Thread :: Next Thread 
KOTwarrior is not online. KOTwarrior
Joined: 13 Jun 2012
Total Posts: 4376
02 Sep 2015 10:20 PM
From the Office of the Solicitor General,
dated 9/2/2015 by the Solicitor General.

September 2nd 2015, 8:19:53 pm

United States
v.
Kenny1160 : 18 U.S. Code § 1831

FORMAL INDICTMENT, BY THE OFFICE OF THE SOLICITOR GENERAL
AND THE UNITED STATES.

The defendant has been formally indicted on the following charges,

Economic Espionage (18 U.S. Code § 1831)
Economic Espionage (18 U.S. Code § 1831)
Economic Espionage (18 U.S. Code § 1831)
Economic Espionage (18 U.S. Code § 1831)

< 4 COUNTS >

1. Kenny1160 is accused of illegally distributing confidential trade secrets of the corporation, Tim Hortons. Evidence of such is clear, and may be found on the case documentation.

Kenny1160 is to participate in the scheduling of his case thereof, or his refusal to do such shall be perceived as a waiver of his right to be a member of the scheduling. Failure to arrive at the scheduled date shall be considered evasion, and shall be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

https://trello.com/c/Tz3UjGV1/916-united-states-v-kenny1160

- U.S. Solicitor General - U.S. Pardon Attorney » KOTwarrior
Report Abuse
kilos2 is not online. kilos2
Joined: 24 Sep 2009
Total Posts: 2024
02 Sep 2015 10:27 PM
l0l wat
Report Abuse
OptiTheory is not online. OptiTheory
Joined: 30 Mar 2012
Total Posts: 11272
02 Sep 2015 10:28 PM
a)In General.—Whoever, intending or knowing that the offense will benefit any foreign government, foreign instrumentality, or foreign agent, knowingly—
Report Abuse
OmniscientDuster is not online. OmniscientDuster
Joined: 15 Nov 2011
Total Posts: 13568
02 Sep 2015 10:29 PM
i accuse myself for being too cool of a dude

plz make a trello thank u
Report Abuse
OptiTheory is not online. OptiTheory
Joined: 30 Mar 2012
Total Posts: 11272
02 Sep 2015 10:30 PM
Didn't benefit any foreign government, foreign instrumentality or foreign agent(s).
Report Abuse
OptiTheory is not online. OptiTheory
Joined: 30 Mar 2012
Total Posts: 11272
02 Sep 2015 10:32 PM
Appealing this!
Report Abuse
OptiTheory is not online. OptiTheory
Joined: 30 Mar 2012
Total Posts: 11272
02 Sep 2015 10:35 PM
Also Indictments are to be done by a Grand Jury! 5th Amendment
Report Abuse
KOTwarrior is not online. KOTwarrior
Joined: 13 Jun 2012
Total Posts: 4376
02 Sep 2015 10:39 PM
You're appealing an indictment? That's interesting.

Secondly, one could argue that the public disclosure of such trade secrets not only revealed the information to entities whom are foreign instruments to the COMPANY thereof, but also distributed it to the open market, where persons whom are entirely of foreign origin may receive such.

There is no purpose in filing fruitless appeals, even upon the conclusion of the case itself. It's quite clear the crime was committed, so what's the issue here?


- U.S. Solicitor General - U.S. Pardon Attorney » KOTwarrior
Report Abuse
KOTwarrior is not online. KOTwarrior
Joined: 13 Jun 2012
Total Posts: 4376
02 Sep 2015 10:40 PM
sry sir, but indictments are only done by grand jurys for felony offenses, and are really just part of practice, not of due process. no requirement for a grand jury, other than state law.


- U.S. Solicitor General - U.S. Pardon Attorney » KOTwarrior
Report Abuse
OptiTheory is not online. OptiTheory
Joined: 30 Mar 2012
Total Posts: 11272
02 Sep 2015 10:41 PM
They were group payouts, not trade secrets.
Report Abuse
KOTwarrior is not online. KOTwarrior
Joined: 13 Jun 2012
Total Posts: 4376
02 Sep 2015 10:50 PM
Let me just display a small portion of the United States' argument right here, to explain how Kenny1160 committed the crimes shown here,

1. The audits were images of trade between a corporation and one it's constituents thereof.

2. No piece of the audits was made public by the corporation, and as per such, direct implication that such records of trade were intended to be private (as are all portions of the audit) was made.

3. The only viable method for the audits to be brought to the court, would have been upon probable cause and a search warrant, neither of which Kenny1160 had. It's no crime for a corporation to simply make a payment, within the constraints of law, to another entity; so such probable cause never existed.

Does this answer your concerns?


- U.S. Solicitor General - U.S. Pardon Attorney » KOTwarrior
Report Abuse
OptiTheory is not online. OptiTheory
Joined: 30 Mar 2012
Total Posts: 11272
02 Sep 2015 11:22 PM
1. The audits were images of trade between a corporation and one it's constituents thereof.

Trade is defined as: Commercial transaction involving the sale and purchase of a good, service, or information

The two Robloxians in the picture were paid and I see no evidence showing they sold anything to get these payments.

2. No piece of the audits was made public by the corporation, and as per such, direct implication that such records of trade were intended to be private (as are all portions of the audit) was made.

Refer to #1 reply.

3. The only viable method for the audits to be brought to the court, would have been upon probable cause and a search warrant, neither of which Kenny1160 had. It's no crime for a corporation to simply make a payment, within the constraints of law, to another entity; so such probable cause never existed.

Here you stated payment which the correct term, a payment is not a trade secret.
Report Abuse
LordTricor is not online. LordTricor
Joined: 31 Jan 2012
Total Posts: 723
02 Sep 2015 11:45 PM
XDDDD

he made u look dumb af kot


~warrior horse~
Report Abuse
SirThanatos is not online. SirThanatos
Joined: 04 Jul 2014
Total Posts: 430
02 Sep 2015 11:46 PM
Chill it's just a game
Report Abuse
KOTwarrior is not online. KOTwarrior
Joined: 13 Jun 2012
Total Posts: 4376
03 Sep 2015 12:54 AM
@lord; Don't worry, I was just eating dinner, I have an argument still.
@iiwashington;

I don't see why you persist. I've shut down numerous arguments presented by you, and yet you continue to try and find workarounds. Unfortunately for you, my case is always full-proof, and these arguments have already been thoroughly accounted for. If you have any further protest, save it for the court. Let me just respond to your previous point.

a. You act as though full evidence of a transaction is included within the burden of proof. It's actually known as exculpatory evidence for your client, Kenny1160. You are the party intended to prove a monetary transaction did or did not occur.

b. The transaction is not required to be any form of trade of goods or services, indemnification for personal damages also qualifies as trade. Any monetary exchange is a qualifier of trade.

c. The “trade secret” in question is not the information itself. It's the individuals involved within the exchange. Those individuals are, in some way or another, involved with a trade deal, which is a means for the company to ascertain it's control on a certain field (by ensuring that it's records of trade are not released).

d. It's at the discretion of the company to reasonably determine what is and what isn't a secret of trade.


- U.S. Solicitor General - U.S. Pardon Attorney » KOTwarrior
Report Abuse
KOTwarrior is not online. KOTwarrior
Joined: 13 Jun 2012
Total Posts: 4376
03 Sep 2015 01:06 AM
@optitheory**

sorry am tired


- U.S. Solicitor General - U.S. Pardon Attorney » KOTwarrior
Report Abuse
GodOfRuin is not online. GodOfRuin
Joined: 10 Oct 2011
Total Posts: 707
03 Sep 2015 02:37 AM
Opti doesn't like bad cases which are not worth it.
Report Abuse
MrRCL is not online. MrRCL
Joined: 14 Aug 2015
Total Posts: 24095
03 Sep 2015 02:40 AM
You have been reported... please don't break the roblox terms of service... Thanks!


R$0
Report Abuse
takendogs is not online. takendogs
Joined: 06 Oct 2012
Total Posts: 165
03 Sep 2015 07:22 AM
Trade requires one side to give something to one side and receive something back. If you say it was payment for damages the one side. Also if that counts as espionage does my saying NightGaladeld bought a gamepass for Soros restaurant count too under your obsurd theory?
Report Abuse
AsheinVI is not online. AsheinVI
Joined: 15 Jun 2014
Total Posts: 8037
03 Sep 2015 08:07 AM
wtf kind of trade secrets would tim hortons hide

this is why DoJ is bad
Report Abuse
TheMrGramgo101 is not online. TheMrGramgo101
Joined: 25 Feb 2012
Total Posts: 359
03 Sep 2015 10:17 AM
I have to agree with opti on this



This is a stupid case
Report Abuse
OptiTheory is not online. OptiTheory
Joined: 30 Mar 2012
Total Posts: 11272
03 Sep 2015 10:30 AM
Aye Ash we ain't bad. People understand the law in different ways.
Report Abuse
KOTwarrior is not online. KOTwarrior
Joined: 13 Jun 2012
Total Posts: 4376
03 Sep 2015 12:50 PM
Actually, whoever referenced some Soros thing, you are fully misinterpreting my statement, and the law altogether. Public records do not qualify as trade secrets in any way, but the information that is detailed within this case, is in fact private record, which can only be obtained through access to company audits; which were marked as private for a reason. Many rights are enumerated to the private sector, and it's the responsibility of company employees to respect them.

Ashein, you have no clue what law is, just resign.
Opti, save it for court.


- U.S. Solicitor General - U.S. Pardon Attorney » KOTwarrior
Report Abuse
KOTwarrior is not online. KOTwarrior
Joined: 13 Jun 2012
Total Posts: 4376
03 Sep 2015 01:19 PM
jk ash, but srs, u don't know law


- U.S. Solicitor General - U.S. Pardon Attorney » KOTwarrior
Report Abuse
Previous Thread :: Next Thread 
Page 1 of 1
 
 
ROBLOX Forum » Club Houses » Clans & Guilds
   
 
   
  • About Us
  • Jobs
  • Blog
  • Parents
  • Help
  • Terms
  • Privacy

©2017 Roblox Corporation. Roblox, the Roblox logo, Robux, Bloxy, and Powering Imagination are among our registered and unregistered trademarks in the U.S. and other countries.



Progress
Starting Roblox...
Connecting to Players...
R R

Roblox is now loading. Get ready to play!

R R

You're moments away from getting into the game!

Click here for help

Check Remember my choice and click Launch Application in the dialog box above to join games faster in the future!

Gameplay sponsored by:
Loading 0% - Starting game...
Get more with Builders Club! Join Builders Club
Choose Your Avatar
I have an account
generic image