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| 24 Aug 2015 10:00 AM |
capitalism was created by the jews because "muh shekels" all this problem will be solved by national socialism national socialism + national communism > capitalism |
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| 24 Aug 2015 10:11 AM |
/pol/ack please go
"leave, socialist scumbag."
op's a natzee not a socialist |
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| 24 Aug 2015 10:16 AM |
@thunder
Fascist, not socialist, if he's using national socialism the way he seems to be using it (as n@z1sm), that is actually much closer to fascism.
☭Why have friends when you can have a cult of personality instead?☭ |
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| 24 Aug 2015 10:16 AM |
| I agree, Capitalism is terrible, socialism is the way to go. |
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| 24 Aug 2015 10:18 AM |
| Jews are not to blame, it is the rich people like Bill Gates, etc. |
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| 24 Aug 2015 10:23 AM |
Hahahahahahahaha, Satire is funny!
No. But seriously. A capitalistic industrial revolution is necessary before National Socialism can be implemented into a nation. Without the Capitalist industrialism, Socialism couldn't produce enough to feed it's own citizens. |
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| 24 Aug 2015 10:36 AM |
"but he a national socialist not socialist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
>national socialism
>socialism
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| 24 Aug 2015 10:39 AM |
@thunder
TIL north korea is democratic because its name is "democratic people's republic of korea" it says democratic in the name, therefore it must be democratic am i right?? |
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| 24 Aug 2015 10:39 AM |
| Capitalism is the only way |
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| 24 Aug 2015 10:45 AM |
| what's going on here ayyyyy |
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| 24 Aug 2015 10:51 AM |
"Yeah, because communism has worked SO well in the past."
there has never ever been a truly communist country the USSR/north korea/cuba/other marxist-leninist crapholes are all state capitalist
"I'd much rather live in capitalistic United States than communistic North Korea."
north korea's a feudal monarchy lol |
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| 24 Aug 2015 11:06 AM |
"Oh gods, another one of THESE morons. The No True Scotsman fallacy is all you people have."
its not one true scotsman though marxist-leninism is literally capitalism except the bourgeois are replaced with the party members in marxist-leninist states the poor own literally nothing while the party lives in luxury, it goes against all of the basic tenets of communism
"State capitalist? Are you stupid? The state owned all property. That's communism BY DEFINITION."
"muh definuzhsuns" your whole argument is currently based on semantics you're ignoring my beliefs and focusing on MUH DEFINIDUNS the WORKERS own property in a communist society, not the state. are you trying to say anarcho-syndicalism and confederalism are not communist because the state is weak/nonexistent?
"It is true in some of those places like the USSR and China under Mao that they did, at one point, reinstate capitalism when communism was failing, but at one point they were truly communist."
they were never truly communist ever
the poor didn't get anything at all in the USSR or china
"That's doesn't override communism. It is true that North Korea isn't a great example of communism, but they started out communistic after the Korean War. They have moved slightly away from communism but only because communism failed."
north korea was never communist
marxist-leninism is not communist
marxist-leninism will never ever be communist
marxist-leninism always results in state-capitalism |
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| 24 Aug 2015 11:11 AM |
alright then since you insist on arguing smenatics i am not a communist anymore, i believe in a new ideology which is called bulbo-mematism, which emphasizes direct democracy, worker ownership of the workplace and confederalism |
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| 24 Aug 2015 11:13 AM |
what's going on here what have i done why did i create flame war |
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| 24 Aug 2015 11:21 AM |
"The US is mostly direct democracy for electing leaders but it's ultimately a representative because we don't vote on most laws. If you want us all to vote on the laws, I think that could be a bad idea, given that most people don't vote anyways."
we'd educate people about politics most people currently just don't care even though it affects them considerably
"The only way direct democracy could work is if the population was well educated on the issues. Americans not only cannot afford higher education but most of them don't even care much about lower education."
exactly, these are problems which we need to fix
"Also, a confederate is just a union of smaller units by a constitution. The US and its states could said to be a confederate in this regard. When you say confederalism, do you mean something like this?"
democratic confederalism the system which is currently implemented in rojava |
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