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Re: Con. Flag isn't bad

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MintyVampire1 is not online. MintyVampire1
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21 Aug 2015 06:04 PM
It shows history and pride of said history, so it's not bad.
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1GR33NTHUNDAH is not online. 1GR33NTHUNDAH
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21 Aug 2015 06:06 PM
the nazl banner also does the same thing

but it is primarily used by edgelords to spread hatred for a group
you have the freedom to fly it wherever but we have the freedom to think you're being an edgy idiot

you dont see me waving that crap around
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TheElderScrollsVI is not online. TheElderScrollsVI
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21 Aug 2015 06:07 PM
It shows the part of American history that you should be ashamed of. You don't see Germany putting the nzi flag all over the place, because it's a part of German history that they out shame on.
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SuperiorFalcon is not online. SuperiorFalcon
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21 Aug 2015 06:07 PM
@elder
N4zis were worse tho


Alex Van Halen; David Lee Roth; Eddie Van Halen; Michael Anthony
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TheElderScrollsVI is not online. TheElderScrollsVI
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21 Aug 2015 06:08 PM
"N4zis were worse tho"

Capturing a specific type of people and forcing them to do things they don't want to. Hmm... sounds the same to me.
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1GR33NTHUNDAH is not online. 1GR33NTHUNDAH
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21 Aug 2015 06:09 PM
"It shows the part of American history that you should be ashamed of."

i wouldnt say this exactly

"Capturing a specific type of people and forcing them to do things they don't want to. Hmm... sounds the same to me."

oy vey dont forget the 6 billion slaves that died in the confederatecaust
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TheElderScrollsVI is not online. TheElderScrollsVI
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21 Aug 2015 06:10 PM
And how is it patriotism and American pride to show the freakin' Confederate Flag? They wanted to separate from America, they are the worst American traitors in history!
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TheElderScrollsVI is not online. TheElderScrollsVI
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21 Aug 2015 06:11 PM
Why did they want to separate from America? The right to own a person, the right to kill them, the right to harass them, etc.
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RuthlessGlory is not online. RuthlessGlory
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21 Aug 2015 06:12 PM
Except banning it is moronic, and nobody seemed to care about it until now.
And you can't even compare the third reich, to the confederacy which wanted equal rights to the northern states.
The reich murdered millions.
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TheElderScrollsVI is not online. TheElderScrollsVI
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21 Aug 2015 06:13 PM
Having it in your statehouse is moronic, it belongs in a museum.
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1GR33NTHUNDAH is not online. 1GR33NTHUNDAH
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21 Aug 2015 06:14 PM
"And how is it patriotism and American pride to show the freakin' Confederate Flag? They wanted to separate from America, they are the worst American traitors in history!"

people in america fly other flags all the time

"Why did they want to separate from America? The right to own a person, the right to kill them, the right to harass them, etc."

and because the union was trying to remove the confederate states rights to make their own laws, much like the recent LGBT marriage ruling

they had enough and exercised their rights by fighting back about it

not saying it was for a good cause, but they did
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RuthlessGlory is not online. RuthlessGlory
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21 Aug 2015 06:14 PM
Again.
You support the mass digging up of soldiers who died doing what they believed to be right?
Uneducated northerner scum.
lol
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jrad217 is not online. jrad217
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21 Aug 2015 06:15 PM
It's the banner of a defeated, radical group

You don't see ancestors of Wehrmacht soldiers flying battle flags now do you?
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1GR33NTHUNDAH is not online. 1GR33NTHUNDAH
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21 Aug 2015 06:15 PM
"Uneducated northerner scum.
lol"

there goes ruthless
making a good point and then poisoning it with disrespect and namecalling
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RuthlessGlory is not online. RuthlessGlory
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21 Aug 2015 06:16 PM
"You don't see ancestors of Wehrmacht soldiers flying battle flags now do you? "

You can't compare the third reich which prosecuted millions of jewish people to that of a group that seceded from the northern states because they weren't getting equal rights.
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RuthlessGlory is not online. RuthlessGlory
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21 Aug 2015 06:17 PM
@Green.
I couldn't help it.
He ignored my point entirely, and said something completely wrong and irrelevant.
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TheElderScrollsVI is not online. TheElderScrollsVI
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21 Aug 2015 06:18 PM
"Again.
You support the mass digging up of soldiers who died doing what they believed to be right?
Uneducated northerner scum.
lol"

I'm not even American, nor I want to be. Let's say Germany hung the nzi flag up in their statehouse, don't you think that would offend Jewish people? Just like the Confederate Flag offend African Americans. Let's take a minute to honour the brave soldiers that fought for nzi Germany for fighting what they believed in. Sounds silly, doesn't it? And that isn't the real Confederate Flag. The real flag is Stainless Banner, Blood-Stained Banner and Stars and Bars. Uneducated Southern Redneck.
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RuthlessGlory is not online. RuthlessGlory
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21 Aug 2015 06:19 PM
"I'm not even American, nor I want to be. Let's say Germany hung the nzi flag up in their statehouse, don't you think that would offend Jewish people? Just like the Confederate Flag offend African Americans. Let's take a minute to honour the brave soldiers that fought for nzi Germany for fighting what they believed in. Sounds silly, doesn't it? And that isn't the real Confederate Flag. The real flag is Stainless Banner, Blood-Stained Banner and Stars and Bars. Uneducated Southern Redneck."

You forget some blacks also fought for the confederacy.
I'm not a redneck either.
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ProblemOfficers is not online. ProblemOfficers
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21 Aug 2015 06:20 PM
a certain old german flag and the con flag arent really comparable imo
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applekk is not online. applekk
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21 Aug 2015 06:21 PM
if you're going to say one flag is bad you have to say every flag is bad since every country has done heinous things
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1GR33NTHUNDAH is not online. 1GR33NTHUNDAH
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21 Aug 2015 06:21 PM
"I couldn't help it.
He ignored my point entirely, and said something completely wrong and irrelevant."

doesn't matter
at all times you must have self control and lack of that shows irresponsibility and immaturity and makes me want to dismiss your argument entirely

"You forget some blacks also fought for the confederacy.
I'm not a redneck either."

side note that blacks, muslims, asians and other races also fought for the nazls
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TheElderScrollsVI is not online. TheElderScrollsVI
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21 Aug 2015 06:21 PM
"You forget some blacks also fought for the confederacy.
I'm not a redneck either."

The ones that had rights.
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jrad217 is not online. jrad217
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21 Aug 2015 06:22 PM
You forgot to mention that those same people held an entire race tied down with ball and chain and forced them to perform unpaid labor, violating a United Nations Universal Human Right.

Personally, I don't care whether they fly it or not but this whole Southern pride thing is getting somewhat ridiculous. It shouldn't be flown in government buildings but if people want to fly it off their trucks that's fine.
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RuthlessGlory is not online. RuthlessGlory
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21 Aug 2015 06:22 PM
"doesn't matter
at all times you must have self control and lack of that shows irresponsibility and immaturity and makes me want to dismiss your argument entirely"

It pissed me off he clearly has no idea what he's arguing about.
What does digging up soldiers, who's died over a 100 years solve?
Nothing.
It won't solve racism.
The flag has NOTHING to do with racism.
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Hunty512 is not online. Hunty512
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21 Aug 2015 06:23 PM
The American Flag technically flew over plantations for by far longer than the Confederate Flag did.

And if I'm not mistaken, for a brief period of time, the American Flag flew over them briefly after the Civil War.

The Civil War was not fought over slavery necessarily, but in order to either keep the union together or to separate, and the result was the union.

But yes, the abolition of slavery came out of the aftermath.
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