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Re: My advice to aspiring or upcoming clan leaders:

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Seviro is not online. Seviro
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20 Aug 2015 11:15 PM
Don't give up.

I want you to think about what you learn in history class. When your teacher goes over figures in history, how do you think they left a legacy to be written in the books? Did they do that by giving up as soon as things got rough, or did they accomplish that by persevering, and continuing no matter the circumstances? The history books are not filled with quitters. They are filled with determined individuals who had a goal and kept to that goal.

This idea applies to everything, even the real world. You are not succeeding if you quit while you are ahead. Even if you continue, you are accomplishing something. You are still succeeding, because you have yet to fail. Giving up is failure, perseverance is success. Keep that perseverance and you can turn your success into even greater success. By not trying you are not doing, and by not doing you are not achieving.

As for clans, those in the clan world's history who quit early are only remembered for that and nothing else. The leaders are labelled incompetent. The group is not thought of fondly in the memories of those people.

Allow me to give one example, regardless of what you think of it: A-SOV. I started with a clan that I was given in a time of crisis that had nothing. The one who had handed it to me had turned away from the group, and instead was trying to destroy it. I had to deal with a group that had next to nothing, and even that was being stripped of it slowly: but I persisted. I reached out to my members. I stuck with my clan. A-SOV as a whole could have died right then and there, had I given up; and for a short time it was close to "dead." But with that, I continued, and I continued.

I have led a clan that -- despite being ridiculed for its long-lasting development -- has been a prominent figure in the clan world that has managed to accomplish a lot of what many already-released clans have done. We are known as one of the better clans in the clan world, despite our status of an unreleased fort. I personally have been the brunt of all the ridicule and criticism of my clan. I have lost friends, I have lost support, I have lost allies and I have lost members. Those who I thought would never depart have stabbed me in the back and kicked me while I was down. I have trudged through real-world issues (such as depression, which many clan leaders have cited as an excuse,) but I've stuck with my clan.

If I had not stuck with my clan, I would be letting people down. The same applies to everyone else. The effort and time and loyalty people have put into your clan would be for nothing, and you to them would be a let down. Don't do that. Continue, continue, continue. Do not give up, for that's a clear sign of failure.

I hope this piece of information will inspire some people to proceed with their clans and is met in a positive regard.
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SantiagoRivero is not online. SantiagoRivero
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20 Aug 2015 11:15 PM
tl:dr
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Seviro is not online. Seviro
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20 Aug 2015 11:16 PM
If you're a new clan leader and you dismissed advice from a reputable individual by saying "tl;dr" I'm severely skeptical of your leadership capability.
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batpenguin24 is not online. batpenguin24
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20 Aug 2015 11:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuHfVn_cfHU

Sums it up.
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SantiagoRivero is not online. SantiagoRivero
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20 Aug 2015 11:17 PM
im playing cs:go right now
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Seviro is not online. Seviro
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20 Aug 2015 11:18 PM
Why are you on C&G
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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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20 Aug 2015 11:18 PM
And in my time of darkness Mother servio comes to me

singing words of wisdom, let it be

let be o let it be

let it be ooo let it be

singing words of wisdom, let it be
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SantiagoRivero is not online. SantiagoRivero
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20 Aug 2015 11:18 PM
im on my phone im dead
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bumpercart is not online. bumpercart
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20 Aug 2015 11:19 PM
tl:dr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhRXn2NRiWI


BUMP-ercart
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jaffacaiks is not online. jaffacaiks
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20 Aug 2015 11:19 PM
UGH TL:DR BRO
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Acrobatically is not online. Acrobatically
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20 Aug 2015 11:20 PM
Thanks for this thread, Seviro, even if it quite long
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CaptainGuyFieri is not online. CaptainGuyFieri
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20 Aug 2015 11:21 PM
the british gave up
they're still around


FOLLOW ME TO FLAVORTOWN, LOSERS
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Hare8901 is not online. Hare8901
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20 Aug 2015 11:21 PM
You are the anti christ
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Seviro is not online. Seviro
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20 Aug 2015 11:32 PM
Thanks Hare
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kelthor is not online. kelthor
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20 Aug 2015 11:34 PM
lold cap
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Seviro is not online. Seviro
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20 Aug 2015 11:35 PM
@cap

Giving up on a clan and "giving up" in a war IRL is completely different
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Seviro is not online. Seviro
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20 Aug 2015 11:41 PM
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Reaven is not online. Reaven
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20 Aug 2015 11:41 PM
Give up, quit while you still can, and go to medical school like I am.
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Seviro is not online. Seviro
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20 Aug 2015 11:42 PM
well this is assuming they have no goals for their actual life lol
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IntenseSnows is not online. IntenseSnows
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20 Aug 2015 11:42 PM
i like reaven's advice
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ImperialOutcast is not online. ImperialOutcast
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20 Aug 2015 11:43 PM
A-SOV in my opinion was a failure...


And tbh tl;dr (did try to read some)

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ArchonSpeirs is not online. ArchonSpeirs
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20 Aug 2015 11:44 PM
Ok thanks you mate. I hope someday I'll run a super-clan.
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Seviro is not online. Seviro
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20 Aug 2015 11:44 PM
"A-SOV in my opinion was a failure..."

definitely a failure when it already does better than a majority of clans
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eaglesword is not online. eaglesword
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20 Aug 2015 11:45 PM
Sev needs a temp base so i can raid him from time to time q.q


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ImperialOutcast is not online. ImperialOutcast
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20 Aug 2015 11:46 PM
Except here is my classification of failure,


1. Horrible and unmature LRs and HRs

2. It's a joke of a clan, and events aren't usually hosted.

3. Low count of activity

4. Lazy leader who decides not to open it up.

5. Eventually going to die out.
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