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does shoplifting become okay if it's to survive?

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reddanger is not online. reddanger
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19 Aug 2015 03:25 AM
"i'm madly in love with you"

who?

;)
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bbr0b is not online. bbr0b
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19 Aug 2015 03:26 AM
"what if the people running the local business are also affected harshly towards their own life and business?"

how harshly are we talking
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Uppercutt is not online. Uppercutt
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19 Aug 2015 03:26 AM
you of course
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EXTREMEKORKSCREW is not online. EXTREMEKORKSCREW
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19 Aug 2015 03:28 AM
"what other situations would you say it's not immoral?"

i dunno i mean if something was like madly overpriced and the owner was trying to scam id be cool with it
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Borowng is not online. Borowng
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19 Aug 2015 03:29 AM
"i dunno i mean if something was like madly overpriced and the owner was trying to scam id be cool with it"

But they own it, it's their stuff to sell.
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bbr0b is not online. bbr0b
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19 Aug 2015 03:30 AM
"But they own it, it's their stuff to sell"

this is why cuckpitalism a bad system
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reddanger is not online. reddanger
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19 Aug 2015 03:30 AM
"how harshly are we talking"

they go out of business and then continue to financially struggle

;)
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KingCamembert is not online. KingCamembert
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19 Aug 2015 03:30 AM
No cuz they should just get a job if they can't even afford food..
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Borowng is not online. Borowng
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19 Aug 2015 03:31 AM
"this is why cuckpitalism a bad system"

Soviet Union worked well.
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bbr0b is not online. bbr0b
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19 Aug 2015 03:31 AM
"they go out of business and then continue to financially struggle"

then thats immoral yes
this isnt a very likely scenario though
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bbr0b is not online. bbr0b
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19 Aug 2015 03:33 AM
"No cuz they should just get a job if they can't even afford food.."

hahhahahah hh

'Soviet Union worked well."

>implying the SU wasn't a state capitalist cuckhole where corrupt officials stole all shekels
>implying im a marxist-leninist
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Borowng is not online. Borowng
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19 Aug 2015 03:34 AM
">implying the SU wasn't a state capitalist cuckhole where corrupt officials stole all shekels
>implying im a marxist-leninist"

What is your ideal society?
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bbr0b is not online. bbr0b
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19 Aug 2015 03:38 AM
"What is your ideal society?"

full automation of all jobs
libertarian municipalism
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reddanger is not online. reddanger
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19 Aug 2015 03:39 AM
"then thats immoral yes
this isnt a very likely scenario though"

so you would say that it becomes immoral if it also severely hurts the business owners, but because the scenario is unlikely, it being a valid reason as to why shoplifting might be bad for survival, isn't very strong

"No cuz they should just get a job if they can't even afford food.."

how will the person get there in time without an alarm?

and

how will the person look qualified enough to work at a job? as we shall assume they haven't showered in days nor have they been groomed

even more-so

you have to be able to apply an address for most jobs, which if a person has no shelter, then they're homeless and don't have an address

but let's go on

you need transportation, they most likely don't have that nor can they consistently afford it

you must also note that it seems people can be homeless and have mental or physical disabilities in many situations, this can mean not getting a job just because of that alone

;)
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reddanger is not online. reddanger
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19 Aug 2015 03:40 AM
"full automation of all jobs
libertarian municipalism"

perhaps off-topic

but which candidate right now do you like the most for the USA?

;)
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Borowng is not online. Borowng
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19 Aug 2015 03:41 AM
"full automation of all jobs
libertarian municipalism"

So like autonomous societies with relaxed laws? Robots doing most of work?

Sounds nice minus the overuse of robots.
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bbr0b is not online. bbr0b
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19 Aug 2015 03:43 AM
"but which candidate right now do you like the most for the USA?"

bernie sanders
although i disagree with him on alot stuff

"Sounds nice minus the overuse of robots."

robots a best
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reddanger is not online. reddanger
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19 Aug 2015 03:43 AM
"bernie sanders
although i disagree with him on alot stuff"

what do you disagree with him on?

;)
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Borowng is not online. Borowng
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19 Aug 2015 03:46 AM
"robots a best"

Robots are nice but you should never become dependent on something, I know this a massive stretch but what if you were hit by an electro magnetic pulse weapon your industry has collapsed because you've replaced all your workers with machines.
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bbr0b is not online. bbr0b
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19 Aug 2015 03:46 AM
"what do you disagree with him on?"

he's pro affirmative action
he supports labeling GMOs
he's anti nuclear power
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bbr0b is not online. bbr0b
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19 Aug 2015 03:49 AM
"Robots are nice but you should never become dependent on something, I know this a massive stretch but what if you were hit by an electro magnetic pulse weapon your industry has collapsed because you've replaced all your workers with machines."

the same thing would happen if we were hit right now with an EMP
most factories depend on machines
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Borowng is not online. Borowng
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19 Aug 2015 03:51 AM
"the same thing would happen if we were hit right now with an EMP
most factories depend on machines"

But we have lots of workers who can come in to replace them, in your society people will forget how to these things because they don't need to do them.
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EXTREMEKORKSCREW is not online. EXTREMEKORKSCREW
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19 Aug 2015 03:51 AM
"But they own it, it's their stuff to sell."

so what

that doesn't make scamming people/monoplies okay

citation; monsanto grain monopoly

~somebody once told me ZA WARUDO is gonna roll me~
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bbr0b is not online. bbr0b
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19 Aug 2015 03:54 AM
who would hit us witgh an EMP weapon anyway
before the creation of an automated socialist state there would be a global revolution since everyone in the world will start using automation technology as soon as its available
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reddanger is not online. reddanger
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19 Aug 2015 03:55 AM
"he's pro affirmative action
he supports labeling GMOs
he's anti nuclear power"

wait, he supports affirmative action?

i mean that's practically a racist act, but w/e

and then i'm not too touchy on nuclear power, so how would you say nuclear power is a good thing for us? as opposed to him saying it's bad

;)
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