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spartank45 is online. spartank45
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05 Aug 2015 10:22 PM
Honestly, the fact that 99% of GOP denies to act on climate change and wants to dissolve the Environmental Protection Agency should be enough not to ever vote Republican
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AwesomeKillerKevin is not online. AwesomeKillerKevin
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05 Aug 2015 10:23 PM



"if you defund PP, you can direct those funds to actual women's health clinics, not bor/tions."

"dumb argument on your side."

You are an idiot. PP is one of the largest womens health services in the country. Only 3% of it deals with bortions. And funds going to that are NOT funded by the government. Funds going into that particular service come from privately paid healthcare, and bortion is legal in the United States.

Who's going to direct those funds? Not conservatives, they don't want any state institutionalized healthcare, they want private healthcare. Well this organization is namely private, so why are you complaining?



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AwesomeKillerKevin is not online. AwesomeKillerKevin
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05 Aug 2015 10:24 PM
@Are you an idiot.

Hit the highlighted link for the whole arcticle.

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"same ppl wanting to send lethal aid to israel
probably the dumbest of your post. comparing bor/tions to military strategy and geopolitical issues. even then, you're still doing a hell of a lot of >implying there. "

Fox news is always happy to bring on its warmongers on its show.
I'm not even joking. Go on youtube now and search fox news. Half the conservatives on the show they get to speak there literally have blood dripping down their chins for more bombs.

Heck, the conservative side even denied a bill in Congress which stated that in bombing operations in iraq and syria against said terrorist group the drone operators would take more careful risk when bombing targets, and not bomb targets near heavily populated civilian areas.

John McCain and other conservatives veto'ed the bill saying it would "demolish the effectency"

REALLY?

PRO-LIFE? "NO NO NO, DONT PASS THAT BILLS OR WE DONT GET TO KILL MORE PEOPLE"
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Belmontlegend255 is not online. Belmontlegend255
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05 Aug 2015 10:25 PM
a baby is just a stupid juvenile chimp since it has NONE of the defining characteristics of what makes us uniquely human (not talking physically, talking mentally as in self-cognizance)

if we're to protect fetuses by being pro-life we might as well ban euthanizing dogs and cats because they're just as nonhuman as fetuses are
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AwesomeKillerKevin is not online. AwesomeKillerKevin
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05 Aug 2015 10:28 PM


"All the liberals go on about how it ought to be the "women's choice to have control over her body." However, her baby is not merely a part of her body -- it is a human being. Physicians now, by and large, accept the notion that human life begins at conception, and many studies have shown that fetuses do, in fact, feel pain with their limited receptors. "

Link to those studies, even if there "is pain" it is relevantly quick. It is probably just as painful as you get your first shots right after you are born.


"No man has the right to initiate force unto another unless it's in a retaliatory fashion. Why should mothers be able to slaughter their children, initiating force in the most lurid way possible, taking away a human's liberty and individual rights? A baby cannot, of course, consent to their own death; hence, the right thing to do is to let live. I wouldn't say I'm pro-life insomuch as pro-liberty."

Conservatives have to stop lying on being on the "Pro-Life" position

>Conservatives support the death penalty, even those 144 INNOCENT people have died in the last decade because of it.
>Deny military bills which would lower civilian causalities
>Deny more gun regulation to gunshop stores to not sell guns to unlicensed individuals or people with mental health issue
>Deny climate change
>Deny more worker rights
>Deny refugees coming to the country, many of them being children.

So don't tell me you are 'Pro life"
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Scissorbane is not online. Scissorbane
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05 Aug 2015 10:28 PM
We need to defund Planned Parenthood so our tax dollars go to meaningful programs promoting women's health, not the cash-cow that currently exists via selling baby's parts.

Allowing gray marriage, in the method by which it was federally legalized, incurs suffering upon everyone in that our constitution, the document from which our liberties and rights are secured, was severely violated. The idea of States' rights, the ideal of states voting into motion powers not granted by the Constitution, was entirely ignored. This sets the precedent for more horrible constitutional violations.

(Personally, I support gray marriage, but just not the way it came to fruition..)
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BIoodborne is not online. BIoodborne
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05 Aug 2015 10:29 PM
lmao im not wasting my time with someone who's main rebuttal is "OMG FOX NEWS!!!!"

look at the original post, asking for you to stop stereotyping conservatives. and you still did it lol
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AwesomeKillerKevin is not online. AwesomeKillerKevin
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05 Aug 2015 10:30 PM
"that article was published "SEPTEMBER 27. 1999"


The study took place and compared the crime rate and bortion rate when the US had bortions totally illegal and now currently legal.

It doesn't matter if its 16 years old, its data hasn't been disproven.

Canada, Austrailia, and other european countries even have similiar reports.
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EdwardoSnowden is not online. EdwardoSnowden
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05 Aug 2015 10:30 PM
i dont want to read your paragraph, so are you referring to the liberals who support minorities just to get votes, and later off ignoring them
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AwesomeKillerKevin is not online. AwesomeKillerKevin
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05 Aug 2015 10:31 PM
"a baby is just a stupid juvenile chimp since it has NONE of the defining characteristics of what makes us uniquely human (not talking physically, talking mentally as in self-cognizance)

if we're to protect fetuses by being pro-life we might as well ban euthanizing dogs and cats because they're just as nonhuman as fetuses are"


This is actually strangely true lol.
In biology class we saw how a turtle, fish, and cat embryo looked so similar.
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ThugTwig is not online. ThugTwig
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05 Aug 2015 10:31 PM
did fox news tell you to say that? [2]
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Scissorbane is not online. Scissorbane
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05 Aug 2015 10:32 PM
I literally said very directly that I am pro-liberty. I support the individual liberty of all human beings, even fetuses, upon which liberals insist on force being initiated. I'm not even a conservative you dingus, so I have no idea what you're talking about with your trite list.

Also, just because it's a short pain doesn't make it a justified pain. That pain shouldn't happen in the first place, because mothers ought to not have the right to become executioners.
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ThugTwig is not online. ThugTwig
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05 Aug 2015 10:32 PM
its funny how conservatives are "pro life" but support the death penalty
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BIoodborne is not online. BIoodborne
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05 Aug 2015 10:33 PM
>somebody gives good point about babies not being able to consent to death

"EVIL WAR MONGER CONSERVS CANT TALK ABOUT PRO LIFE THEY DONT EVEN WANT HIGH MINIMUM WAGE!!!!"

stop making yourself like an idiot. at least stay on topic, ffs.
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AwesomeKillerKevin is not online. AwesomeKillerKevin
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05 Aug 2015 10:33 PM
"We need to defund Planned Parenthood so our tax dollars go to meaningful programs promoting women's health, not the cash-cow that currently exists via selling baby's parts."


>READ MY PREVIOUS POST
-> Only 3% of what PP does is with bortion services, and those services are not funded by the government.
-> They were not selling babies, the video was debunked. Even in the heavily editted video the women -specifically said- the 50$ price was for shipping cost. If you really wanted to make money you'd sell those on the black market. Fml.


"Allowing gray marriage, in the method by which it was federally legalized, incurs suffering upon everyone in that our constitution, the document from which our liberties and rights are secured, was severely violated. The idea of States' rights, the ideal of states voting into motion powers not granted by the Constitution, was entirely ignored. This sets the precedent for more horrible constitutional violations."

>BS, so if it was up to you states could still allow slavery because its 'The states right'

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lncipio is not online. lncipio
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05 Aug 2015 10:33 PM
on your left we can see Americans arguing about political parties, moving on
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Celestus is not online. Celestus
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05 Aug 2015 10:35 PM
A fetus is not a human, I am fearessly against the idea of being allowed to kill one after 20 weeks (however long it scientifically takes to develop feeling), however before then I see no particular problem.

If the argument is all life is sacred, why do the same people who vote against the right not have a SEVERELY strict view towards foreign policy in Africa. There are actual babies in other parts of the world dying due to starvation, a lot of people do very little about it, but argue against choice because 'all life is sacred'. Right ok.
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BIoodborne is not online. BIoodborne
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05 Aug 2015 10:36 PM
THUG YOU IDIOT WE JUST WENT THROUGH THIS.

>don't stereotype conservatives
"omg Fox News"

killing a child and dismembering it for "research" IS NOT THE SAME as killing a convicted criminal PEACEFULLY.

tell me what crime an unborn child had committed, go.
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AwesomeKillerKevin is not online. AwesomeKillerKevin
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05 Aug 2015 10:37 PM
"lmao im not wasting my time with someone who's main rebuttal is "OMG FOX NEWS!!!!"

-> my main argument was not "Fox News" Infact only 1-2 of my sentences even had anything to do with fox news. The fact that you are going to use the "fox News" argument as a cop out shows how pathetic you are after you keep assuring planned parenthood actually sold fetus parts for money.

If you want to cop out go ahead, if not, pay attention to my real arguments not just one statement which you will use as a cop out.

"look at the original post, asking for you to stop stereotyping conservatives. and you still did it lol"

I posted on what I disagreed with and instead of you saying
"Yeah thats not 'real' conservatives" or "Yeah thats not me"
You went on defending those arguments. So I assumed that was the position you were supporting.


Ironically enough, your responses somehow fall inline with the fallacious sterotypes of conservatives..

...hmm
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iKeno is not online. iKeno
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05 Aug 2015 10:37 PM
are you guys having an argument about abrtions and that stuff?

well i'm not getting into that...
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AwesomeKillerKevin is not online. AwesomeKillerKevin
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05 Aug 2015 10:39 PM


"Also, just because it's a short pain doesn't make it a justified pain. That pain shouldn't happen in the first place, because mothers ought to not have the right to become executioners."


->Death row inmates don't have a right to consent
->Poor civilians don't have a right to consent to die from US airstrikes which could be reduced by more safer military conduct denied by congress on republican half.

Fetuses are not conscience in the early states in which bortions are lega.
I don't see the issue.
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BIoodborne is not online. BIoodborne
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05 Aug 2015 10:39 PM
>pro life
"OMG LOOK A REPUBLICAN"

I'm a libertarian you idiot LOL.
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BIoodborne is not online. BIoodborne
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05 Aug 2015 10:40 PM
THIS IDIOT IS STILL COMPARING BORTIONS TO AIRSTRIKES AND DEATH ROW LMAO

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AwesomeKillerKevin is not online. AwesomeKillerKevin
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05 Aug 2015 10:43 PM
"killing a child and dismembering it for "research" IS NOT THE SAME as killing a convicted criminal PEACEFULLY."

You are an idiot.

They do not kill a child just so they can "Research"
The mother goes in beforehand knowing that she does not want the child or is suffering from complications so she has an bortion. Before the procedure the mother is asked if she would be okay for it to be removed to benefit a scientific cause. If she says yes then the procedure goes through, they get the fetus intact, and ship it off to a research area. If she says no, then they simply bort the fetus and dont use it for scientific study.

"tell me what crime an unborn child had committed, go."

-> unborn child
--> Tell me what crime children 50 years from now will have to deal with because of our policies?

An "unborn child" in an early stage of a fetus is not born yet.


">pro life
"OMG LOOK A REPUBLICAN"

I'm a libertarian you idiot LOL."

--> makes argument defending conservatism on the platform against liberals
-> Libertarians are often on the running side of the republican party.
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Belmontlegend255 is not online. Belmontlegend255
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05 Aug 2015 10:45 PM
bioodborne he keeps repeating the death row and other arguments because you haven't actually responded or argued against them

you just kept accusing him for stereotyping you instead of actually trying to refute his argument

not have you gave any thought to my response
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